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strongest human emotion is fear

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is trepidation of young men

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when we were children our parents told

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exist but we were sure that something

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was lurking under the bed or in the

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closet

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fear sees even if our eyes are closed

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welcome to the realm of the arcane

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my name is lon stripler

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join me as i examine unexplained

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creatures

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strange manifestations of remarkable

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imagine this next hour as a voyage of

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discovery to strange lands

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seeking not for new territory

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but for new knowledge of the

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come on board as we begin this adventure

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together

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and welcome to another episode of arcane

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radio where we explore the unexplained

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live on beyond explanation

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i'm your host lon strickler coming to

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you within a cannon shot of the howled

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fields of gettysburg pennsylvania

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thanks for joining us

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so tonight

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we have seth breedlow

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and seth is an ohio filmmaker he has

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written edited produced and directed

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shorts and features about a variety of

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topics but it's best known for his

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production company in the films they

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produced under the small town monsters

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banner

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before film

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read love

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wrote for a number of websites

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newspapers magazines

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and learn some of the skills he employs

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as a director while working as a

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reporter

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now

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seth has appeared on numerous television

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and radio programs in 2013

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seth began working on the concept for a

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series entitled small town monsters

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in general he set out to capture two

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accounts from tiny communities often

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forgotten by larger media outlets

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these cryptid sightings from the 60s and

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70s for the most part of high-intensity

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monster encounters

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these cryptociting stories were perfect

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for a documentary

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production company with a history of

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working in the midwest

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he was able to document cryptozoology by

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interviewing the original witnesses and

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recreating and rediscovering elements of

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the cases at the ground level

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now seth has written and produced over a

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dozen films including the more recent on

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the trail the lake michigan mothman and

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on the trail

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of bigfoot the discovery so seth thanks

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hey hey lon thanks for having me

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well we haven't talked about of course

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you've been busy as hell i i know that

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this um

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mention

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this whole bigfoot thing with you and uh

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having an encounter what was that all

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about was that was that around minerva

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well there's a whole there's a whole

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backstory to it so um

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she basically does all the

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all the well i mean you've you've spoken

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with her yeah um when we made lake

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michigan um she she kind of handles all

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the research at sdm but her husband

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and his family own property right

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um a large chunk of property

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uh that that has a history of sightings

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there's neighbors that have seen things

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sightings on this road so

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um we were aware there was activity back

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there and um the way it started was that

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alex and eli who do our beyond the trail

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series they were in the midst of this

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insane summer of filming that they had

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they'd moved all over the the west from

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denver from colorado and utah and and

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the you know northern california all

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this kind of stuff

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going to be driving back through the

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area so we told them come to minerva

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shoot with some friends for the weekend

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you know some strange activity

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tommy my son and i were sleeping in this

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this cabin so there's an old hunting

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cabin on the property and um

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running water and we're we're probably

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window of the cabin woke me up

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uh thankfully didn't wake tommy up

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woke me up and i immediately my first

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why are uh i assumed it was alex and eli

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i walked outside and there was no one

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experienced stuff that weekend

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especially um noises strange sounds a

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lot of wood knocks

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you know why don't we come back out and

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really anticipate anything happen

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happening in fact the original idea

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behind this show was that it would be

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heather and i and then each episode we'd

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bring a different researcher and

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investigator with us out to the property

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um talk to them and

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i kept saying it would be like uh

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a uh a podcast with an investigation

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component and so that's what i assume

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nothing would happen and we'd just go

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her three kids who range in age from

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her husband and we're all back there we

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had a fire going the kids were actually

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up at the cabin watching their something

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it started with what sounded like um

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something uh banging on a like a metal

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drum there's metal drums and another

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chunk of patch of forest that sits at

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the top of the hill from where the cabin

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you know like very loud very clear

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running in fact if you watch the episode

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you'll hear it like that that was pretty

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commonplace that night we heard that

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woods by myself so i went up into the

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we assumed we were surrounded or i was

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surrounded um you could hear them coming

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in from all sides and you can hear that

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um this isn't like

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this stuff was all caught on camera um

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all of that's caught on camera

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strange activity uh we ended up going to

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bed and the next day

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she was in the back and

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filming us and i was riding up front um

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camera or setting a trail camera up and

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we were heading down toward a pipeline

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this pipeline

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for like anywhere from an eighth of a

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second to two seconds i'm not real clear

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window

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there was an upright running dark brown

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an olympic sprinter just taking out just

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booking it across this pipeline

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it go across

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and i'm sitting there in the passenger

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about 20 miles an hour and so i screamed

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stop but by the time i screamed stop i

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had already jumped from the moving atv

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the pipeline and i'm just

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run run like fall running

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toward this pipeline clearing

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trying not to collapse um

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seven six probably five anywhere from

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five to seven feet tall so once i hit

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that i couldn't go anywhere

287
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um but we could hear the thing moving

288
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around in the woods

289
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at the top of the hill i mean you could

290
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hear movement in the woods

291
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and again

292
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all that is caught on camera as far as

293
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like my reaction to it unfortunately

294
00:10:38,470 --> 00:10:35,279
neither of us caught the thing running

295
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across she was filming me and i was

296
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filming

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the hill

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but

299
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the best way i can figure it is the

300
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thing

301
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was behind some tall brush and then when

302
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it took off

303
00:10:53,990 --> 00:10:52,480
it would have taken off just as the atv

304
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cleared that

305
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pipeline and and was probably behind a

306
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row of trees that ran along the right

307
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hand side of the camera so even though i

308
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could see it in real time

309
00:11:09,350 --> 00:11:07,440
you you can't see it on camera so

310
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it was crazy it was a weird experience

311
00:11:14,230 --> 00:11:11,440
the rest of that weekend was was pretty

312
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quiet um but that first night was

313
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insanity i mean just the sheer volume of

314
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wood knocks and stuff that we captured

315
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was wild

316
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um and then the the sighting and uh we

317
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filmed the third episode comes out on

318
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sunday uh

319
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and that one that one is um

320
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uh there's a lot of strange stuff that

321
00:11:37,350 --> 00:11:36,079
happened in that episode and and um

322
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yeah we're really excited about that

323
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series it's it's

324
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there's been

325
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a lot of activity happening out there

326
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and uh a lot of weird stuff a lot of

327
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a lot of tree knocks

328
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i don't i don't i don't quite understand

329
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that but it's uh i've been told by some

330
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of the people that have watched it that

331
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it's the clearest

332
00:11:58,550 --> 00:11:56,800
like wood knocks they've ever heard on

333
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anything and i mean i have to agree it's

334
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like it's comically weird though like

335
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you can be out there my son got a

336
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response off a tree knock

337
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uh broad daylight one day like it just

338
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just tree knock and then we had a tree

339
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knock across the hill like it's it's

340
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really strange and then

341
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um we've had you know a few

342
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vocalizations nothing

343
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nothing crazy no like ohio howls or

344
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anything like that

345
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but um

346
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but a lot of a lot of tree knocks and

347
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then the vocalizations we have had have

348
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been things like whistles and uh

349
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and some there was a weird hum that we

350
00:12:37,269 --> 00:12:35,519
captured in there one night um that

351
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seemed to be almost melodic with this

352
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real bassy

353
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kind of humming sound

354
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which apparently gorillas do when they

355
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eat

356
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so it's similar to that actually

357
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and then we had we did have

358
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that episode three that comes out on

359
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sunday has some weirder stuff in it some

360
00:12:57,430 --> 00:12:55,279
of them were like some bizarre stuff

361
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that that was a little

362
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um

363
00:13:02,790 --> 00:13:01,279
i hesitate to say paranormal but high

364
00:13:04,550 --> 00:13:02,800
strangeness for sure if it wasn't high

365
00:13:06,150 --> 00:13:04,560
strangeness then we were experiencing

366
00:13:08,790 --> 00:13:06,160
some poachers or something on the

367
00:13:11,910 --> 00:13:09,670
well

368
00:13:14,389 --> 00:13:11,920
you know i i remember when your first

369
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minerva film came out

370
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and uh

371
00:13:20,150 --> 00:13:17,760
it was interesting because not long

372
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after that i started getting reports out

373
00:13:24,150 --> 00:13:22,480
of minerva in particular

374
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an area and you and i have talked about

375
00:13:29,350 --> 00:13:26,560
this before that that scrapyard or

376
00:13:31,190 --> 00:13:29,360
junkyard that's along one of the main

377
00:13:32,949 --> 00:13:31,200
drags either coming in or out of town i

378
00:13:34,389 --> 00:13:32,959
don't know which i think you know what

379
00:13:37,350 --> 00:13:34,399
i'm talking about

380
00:13:39,590 --> 00:13:37,360
yeah it's right down it's right down um

381
00:13:41,509 --> 00:13:39,600
man not even quarter mile from from the

382
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kane's house on the left the left hand

383
00:13:45,030 --> 00:13:42,639
side of the road if you're heading

384
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heading into minerva yeah well i've had

385
00:13:50,230 --> 00:13:47,199
i've had witnesses tell me about seeing

386
00:13:52,629 --> 00:13:50,240
these bigfoot crossing the road there

387
00:13:54,470 --> 00:13:52,639
and going across the street from the

388
00:13:56,150 --> 00:13:54,480
junkyard and people seeing them in the

389
00:13:58,389 --> 00:13:56,160
junkyard

390
00:14:01,350 --> 00:13:58,399
so um

391
00:14:04,069 --> 00:14:01,360
i know something's there

392
00:14:06,389 --> 00:14:04,079
yeah i mean the history i mean you can

393
00:14:08,069 --> 00:14:06,399
in in beyond the trail they interviewed

394
00:14:09,829 --> 00:14:08,079
four or five eyewitnesses from that

395
00:14:11,430 --> 00:14:09,839
general area i mean we just did we

396
00:14:13,430 --> 00:14:11,440
actually did this week's episode of

397
00:14:14,389 --> 00:14:13,440
monsteropolis is all about

398
00:14:16,389 --> 00:14:14,399
um

399
00:14:19,350 --> 00:14:16,399
is all about bigfoot activity and

400
00:14:22,310 --> 00:14:19,360
minerva uh present day and

401
00:14:24,150 --> 00:14:22,320
i mean i when we made our movie

402
00:14:25,750 --> 00:14:24,160
from from the point where we made and

403
00:14:29,350 --> 00:14:25,760
released our movie

404
00:14:33,030 --> 00:14:29,360
probably through present day i've i've

405
00:14:35,910 --> 00:14:33,040
i bet i've had 75 to 100 correspondences

406
00:14:38,629 --> 00:14:35,920
with people from from not necessarily

407
00:14:39,590 --> 00:14:38,639
just minerva but that area you know that

408
00:14:42,150 --> 00:14:39,600
that

409
00:14:45,350 --> 00:14:42,160
probably 30 40 mile

410
00:14:47,350 --> 00:14:45,360
area out near minerva lisbon

411
00:14:49,430 --> 00:14:47,360
uh east canton that whole

412
00:14:53,430 --> 00:14:49,440
area i've had correspondences with

413
00:14:57,269 --> 00:14:54,790
interesting

414
00:14:58,949 --> 00:14:57,279
well apparently that isn't the only

415
00:15:01,430 --> 00:14:58,959
cryptid you had an encounter with you

416
00:15:03,030 --> 00:15:01,440
know you did this uh film

417
00:15:04,790 --> 00:15:03,040
uh

418
00:15:06,550 --> 00:15:04,800
on the trail of the lake michigan

419
00:15:08,150 --> 00:15:06,560
mothman and

420
00:15:11,269 --> 00:15:08,160
you had an encounter toward the end of

421
00:15:14,550 --> 00:15:11,279
the film can you tell us about it

422
00:15:17,590 --> 00:15:15,509
i mean

423
00:15:19,509 --> 00:15:17,600
yeah until this thing happened in

424
00:15:20,790 --> 00:15:19,519
minerva this was like the most surreal

425
00:15:23,189 --> 00:15:20,800
thing that had ever happened to me just

426
00:15:24,710 --> 00:15:23,199
because it was so unexpected and just

427
00:15:26,389 --> 00:15:24,720
like

428
00:15:28,629 --> 00:15:26,399
disclaimer i don't believe what i

429
00:15:30,230 --> 00:15:28,639
experienced was necessarily mothman i'm

430
00:15:31,590 --> 00:15:30,240
pretty sure what we happen to see with a

431
00:15:32,949 --> 00:15:31,600
great horned owl now there's a lot of

432
00:15:35,269 --> 00:15:32,959
people who

433
00:15:36,389 --> 00:15:35,279
are disagreeing with me on that but

434
00:15:38,470 --> 00:15:36,399
personally

435
00:15:40,870 --> 00:15:38,480
i think we saw a gray horned owl which

436
00:15:43,110 --> 00:15:40,880
in itself is pretty cool like to be in

437
00:15:44,310 --> 00:15:43,120
chicago and encounter anything is pretty

438
00:15:46,230 --> 00:15:44,320
cool but

439
00:15:49,110 --> 00:15:46,240
um yeah we were

440
00:15:51,590 --> 00:15:49,120
we were there we were in chicago um we

441
00:15:53,030 --> 00:15:51,600
were only in the downtown area one night

442
00:15:55,829 --> 00:15:53,040
which if you know

443
00:15:57,350 --> 00:15:55,839
which you do i mean the the

444
00:15:59,189 --> 00:15:57,360
the amount of activity that's taking

445
00:16:00,870 --> 00:15:59,199
place in chicago isn't necessarily

446
00:16:02,710 --> 00:16:00,880
relegated to just downtown so we only

447
00:16:04,550 --> 00:16:02,720
spent right it was it was an abbreviated

448
00:16:07,110 --> 00:16:04,560
shoot anyway so we only spent one year

449
00:16:09,670 --> 00:16:07,120
over by the ambassador right

450
00:16:11,030 --> 00:16:09,680
yeah we were at uh

451
00:16:12,389 --> 00:16:11,040
is that what it was i can't remember the

452
00:16:13,509 --> 00:16:12,399
name of the hotel i think that's the

453
00:16:15,509 --> 00:16:13,519
hotel

454
00:16:17,110 --> 00:16:15,519
i'm not i don't really know but i think

455
00:16:19,269 --> 00:16:17,120
it's one of the it's one of the famous

456
00:16:21,430 --> 00:16:19,279
ones it's it's yeah it's like right

457
00:16:23,670 --> 00:16:21,440
downtown but we were

458
00:16:25,670 --> 00:16:23,680
uh it was it was kind of like i don't

459
00:16:27,749 --> 00:16:25,680
know early

460
00:16:29,269 --> 00:16:27,759
early evening maybe later evening it was

461
00:16:31,350 --> 00:16:29,279
probably like nine o'clock 10 o'clock

462
00:16:33,749 --> 00:16:31,360
something like that at night i don't

463
00:16:35,110 --> 00:16:33,759
remember the exact time right now but

464
00:16:37,350 --> 00:16:35,120
um

465
00:16:38,710 --> 00:16:37,360
we were we were hanging out we were done

466
00:16:40,710 --> 00:16:38,720
filming for the day and everyone was

467
00:16:42,710 --> 00:16:40,720
just kind of hanging out talking and i

468
00:16:45,430 --> 00:16:42,720
got bored and decided to grab my camera

469
00:16:47,030 --> 00:16:45,440
and go outside to do b-roll which if

470
00:16:48,870 --> 00:16:47,040
anyone's been on a shoot that's pretty

471
00:16:50,550 --> 00:16:48,880
common practice for me my favorite part

472
00:16:53,189 --> 00:16:50,560
about this stuff is kind of exploring on

473
00:16:56,150 --> 00:16:53,199
my own which downtown chicago might not

474
00:16:58,550 --> 00:16:56,160
be the best idea but uh i decided to

475
00:17:02,550 --> 00:16:58,560
grab my camera and i headed out

476
00:17:05,750 --> 00:17:04,390
it's basically like this side street off

477
00:17:07,350 --> 00:17:05,760
michigan avenue so we're right on

478
00:17:09,590 --> 00:17:07,360
michigan michigan avenue's right there

479
00:17:11,990 --> 00:17:09,600
and i'm like right right downtown right

480
00:17:13,669 --> 00:17:12,000
the hub of everything right and

481
00:17:15,590 --> 00:17:13,679
it's early enough in the evening that

482
00:17:17,829 --> 00:17:15,600
there's traffic and people being let out

483
00:17:19,510 --> 00:17:17,839
of cars and there was a taxi cab with a

484
00:17:22,150 --> 00:17:19,520
family getting out of it when i walked

485
00:17:23,189 --> 00:17:22,160
out and i got maybe like two shots off

486
00:17:24,870 --> 00:17:23,199
before

487
00:17:26,870 --> 00:17:24,880
this happened but basically i walked out

488
00:17:28,950 --> 00:17:26,880
of the hotel and i was getting some

489
00:17:30,789 --> 00:17:28,960
b-roll and um

490
00:17:33,350 --> 00:17:30,799
the first thing that happened or what

491
00:17:34,150 --> 00:17:33,360
alerted me to what was about to happen

492
00:17:35,590 --> 00:17:34,160
was

493
00:17:39,029 --> 00:17:35,600
i heard

494
00:17:39,830 --> 00:17:39,039
wings like the flapping of wings

495
00:17:42,390 --> 00:17:39,840
and

496
00:17:45,510 --> 00:17:42,400
i was facing away from michigan avenue

497
00:17:48,230 --> 00:17:45,520
and sound was coming from lake michigan

498
00:17:49,750 --> 00:17:48,240
from from direction of lake michigan

499
00:17:51,510 --> 00:17:49,760
and uh so i

500
00:17:54,789 --> 00:17:51,520
i spun around

501
00:17:57,190 --> 00:17:54,799
and i saw this thing before

502
00:17:59,510 --> 00:17:57,200
before i knew what was going on and i'm

503
00:18:01,190 --> 00:17:59,520
looking at it with my eyes i've got my

504
00:18:02,789 --> 00:18:01,200
camera running

505
00:18:04,710 --> 00:18:02,799
my camera was running at the time and i

506
00:18:06,630 --> 00:18:04,720
was filming at 120

507
00:18:07,830 --> 00:18:06,640
120 frames per second so i'm filming a

508
00:18:10,230 --> 00:18:07,840
slow motion

509
00:18:13,270 --> 00:18:10,240
and so i spin and i get this thing on

510
00:18:14,470 --> 00:18:13,280
camera and um it comes down it goes over

511
00:18:15,750 --> 00:18:14,480
my head

512
00:18:16,549 --> 00:18:15,760
takes off

513
00:18:18,390 --> 00:18:16,559
uh

514
00:18:20,789 --> 00:18:18,400
high goes airborne you know i mean it's

515
00:18:23,430 --> 00:18:20,799
airborne already but it goes it goes

516
00:18:26,310 --> 00:18:23,440
gains altitude really fast

517
00:18:28,230 --> 00:18:26,320
and um i mean before i knew it it was it

518
00:18:29,990 --> 00:18:28,240
was out of sight what was really

519
00:18:31,750 --> 00:18:30,000
interesting about the event was that no

520
00:18:34,150 --> 00:18:31,760
one else on the street reacted to it

521
00:18:36,630 --> 00:18:34,160
like literally no one else

522
00:18:39,190 --> 00:18:36,640
in my immediate area reacted to this

523
00:18:41,190 --> 00:18:39,200
thing at all uh including like this

524
00:18:43,350 --> 00:18:41,200
family getting in the or getting out of

525
00:18:45,590 --> 00:18:43,360
this taxi cab checking into the hotel

526
00:18:48,230 --> 00:18:45,600
there were people sitting there was like

527
00:18:49,510 --> 00:18:48,240
a you know like a concrete

528
00:18:51,909 --> 00:18:49,520
uh

529
00:18:53,750 --> 00:18:51,919
wall that runs you know along the

530
00:18:55,590 --> 00:18:53,760
exterior of the hotel and there were

531
00:18:57,430 --> 00:18:55,600
some people sitting on the i'm literally

532
00:19:00,789 --> 00:18:57,440
i'm the only person out there reacting

533
00:19:01,830 --> 00:19:00,799
to this giant bird flying overhead

534
00:19:03,909 --> 00:19:01,840
um

535
00:19:05,270 --> 00:19:03,919
i don't know it was real weird it was it

536
00:19:08,310 --> 00:19:05,280
was

537
00:19:10,470 --> 00:19:08,320
one of the stranger things that's ever

538
00:19:12,870 --> 00:19:10,480
happened just because i'm not used to

539
00:19:15,110 --> 00:19:12,880
actually seeing things

540
00:19:18,950 --> 00:19:15,120
during a shoot it never happens

541
00:19:20,549 --> 00:19:18,960
you know i've had so many people tell us

542
00:19:22,950 --> 00:19:20,559
that you know

543
00:19:24,870 --> 00:19:22,960
i'm there seeing this thing and nobody

544
00:19:29,190 --> 00:19:24,880
else is reacting to it it's like you

545
00:19:33,830 --> 00:19:31,110
now you know you're there shooting a

546
00:19:36,390 --> 00:19:33,840
film about this creature

547
00:19:37,909 --> 00:19:36,400
um maybe that's the case i don't know

548
00:19:40,390 --> 00:19:37,919
i've heard some strange things

549
00:19:41,909 --> 00:19:40,400
associated with this phenomena there

550
00:19:42,950 --> 00:19:41,919
yeah and uh

551
00:19:44,950 --> 00:19:42,960
you know

552
00:19:46,789 --> 00:19:44,960
what i saw of it now of course it was

553
00:19:49,510 --> 00:19:46,799
somewhat dark

554
00:19:52,070 --> 00:19:49,520
uh but this thing had some size to it so

555
00:19:53,830 --> 00:19:52,080
yeah it was it's for sure big the the

556
00:19:55,430 --> 00:19:53,840
thing that i that was difficult for me

557
00:19:58,549 --> 00:19:55,440
to explain to the other people when i

558
00:19:59,350 --> 00:19:58,559
was showing it to him was like

559
00:20:01,510 --> 00:19:59,360
it's

560
00:20:03,909 --> 00:20:01,520
there's that building in the foreground

561
00:20:05,510 --> 00:20:03,919
it's beyond that building when it's when

562
00:20:08,390 --> 00:20:05,520
it's like airborne and you're still

563
00:20:10,710 --> 00:20:08,400
seeing the hinges in the wings

564
00:20:13,110 --> 00:20:10,720
that that's beyond that building so it's

565
00:20:15,510 --> 00:20:13,120
i mean it's a good distance from me

566
00:20:17,270 --> 00:20:15,520
and you can still make out detail and

567
00:20:19,110 --> 00:20:17,280
that's with all the noise and the grain

568
00:20:20,789 --> 00:20:19,120
from the from the camera even though

569
00:20:21,750 --> 00:20:20,799
it's because it was night time it was

570
00:20:23,190 --> 00:20:21,760
dark

571
00:20:25,830 --> 00:20:23,200
and uh

572
00:20:29,590 --> 00:20:25,840
it was big it for sure was big i mean i

573
00:20:34,630 --> 00:20:32,950
well i i tell ya all i can say is folks

574
00:20:36,630 --> 00:20:34,640
get the film and look at it it's toward

575
00:20:40,310 --> 00:20:36,640
the end of the film it's

576
00:20:41,510 --> 00:20:40,320
i was kind of shocked by it um

577
00:20:46,310 --> 00:20:41,520
it's

578
00:20:48,310 --> 00:20:46,320
of course it was dark but

579
00:20:51,590 --> 00:20:48,320
i tried to lighten it up a bit in the

580
00:20:54,310 --> 00:20:51,600
background in some on it and i i really

581
00:20:55,270 --> 00:20:54,320
can't tell how big it was but it was big

582
00:20:57,430 --> 00:20:55,280
yeah

583
00:20:59,270 --> 00:20:57,440
it was it was up it was past further

584
00:21:01,029 --> 00:20:59,280
past you than

585
00:21:02,950 --> 00:21:01,039
what you thought it would have been and

586
00:21:04,950 --> 00:21:02,960
uh and i remember peop you know the

587
00:21:07,669 --> 00:21:04,960
folks you were with and commenting about

588
00:21:08,950 --> 00:21:07,679
that and uh yeah

589
00:21:11,350 --> 00:21:08,960
yeah

590
00:21:12,230 --> 00:21:11,360
there was a weird vibe that whole

591
00:21:13,750 --> 00:21:12,240
trip

592
00:21:15,270 --> 00:21:13,760
um

593
00:21:17,830 --> 00:21:15,280
just in general there was there was a

594
00:21:19,510 --> 00:21:17,840
lot of like a weird

595
00:21:22,070 --> 00:21:19,520
kind of atmosphere and i don't know if

596
00:21:23,990 --> 00:21:22,080
that's just just because

597
00:21:26,470 --> 00:21:24,000
you know there's a lot of controversy

598
00:21:28,470 --> 00:21:26,480
behind that story um

599
00:21:30,549 --> 00:21:28,480
so i'm sure to some extent it's that

600
00:21:31,990 --> 00:21:30,559
because we've never dabbled in something

601
00:21:36,230 --> 00:21:32,000
that had

602
00:21:40,710 --> 00:21:38,470
conflicting in like their outdoor

603
00:21:41,430 --> 00:21:40,720
outlook on the case so that itself was

604
00:21:46,390 --> 00:21:41,440
gonna

605
00:21:48,149 --> 00:21:46,400
but no i mean even beyond that there's

606
00:21:49,190 --> 00:21:48,159
just there's just some strangeness like

607
00:21:50,789 --> 00:21:49,200
we went to

608
00:21:52,630 --> 00:21:50,799
indiana dunes

609
00:21:54,390 --> 00:21:52,640
and i actually like there was there was

610
00:21:56,470 --> 00:21:54,400
some weird stuff going on there we kept

611
00:21:57,750 --> 00:21:56,480
running into that oz stuff too which i

612
00:21:59,190 --> 00:21:57,760
was the only one in our group who

613
00:22:01,350 --> 00:21:59,200
thought that was interesting

614
00:22:03,830 --> 00:22:01,360
but there's this whole

615
00:22:05,990 --> 00:22:03,840
theory that that um

616
00:22:08,630 --> 00:22:06,000
some of the folks that we interviewed

617
00:22:10,789 --> 00:22:08,640
have worked up that involves like oz

618
00:22:12,710 --> 00:22:10,799
which i i'm still not real clear on how

619
00:22:14,710 --> 00:22:12,720
that works and what what the what the

620
00:22:16,630 --> 00:22:14,720
backstory is with it but there's

621
00:22:19,750 --> 00:22:16,640
there was this like weird thing there

622
00:22:21,830 --> 00:22:19,760
was this weird theme of oz

623
00:22:23,909 --> 00:22:21,840
and l frank bomb constantly coming up

624
00:22:26,549 --> 00:22:23,919
like even the hotel we checked into in

625
00:22:29,350 --> 00:22:26,559
indiana dudes yeah even the hotel we

626
00:22:31,430 --> 00:22:29,360
checked into and indiana dunes had

627
00:22:32,310 --> 00:22:31,440
wizard of oz stuff all over the walls is

628
00:22:33,830 --> 00:22:32,320
that right

629
00:22:35,669 --> 00:22:33,840
yeah we couldn't like we couldn't get

630
00:22:37,110 --> 00:22:35,679
away from it everywhere we went we kept

631
00:22:39,590 --> 00:22:37,120
running into

632
00:22:41,590 --> 00:22:39,600
everything was oz and al capone but you

633
00:22:43,590 --> 00:22:41,600
know we're in we're in canton we have

634
00:22:45,669 --> 00:22:43,600
canton ohio here so like we can't escape

635
00:22:46,710 --> 00:22:45,679
al capone even at all right

636
00:22:48,870 --> 00:22:46,720
right

637
00:22:49,909 --> 00:22:48,880
well you know the first major setting we

638
00:22:53,750 --> 00:22:49,919
had

639
00:22:54,870 --> 00:22:53,760
in 2017 was at oz park mm-hmm

640
00:22:56,950 --> 00:22:54,880
yeah you know

641
00:22:59,190 --> 00:22:56,960
and of course you know the story about

642
00:23:00,950 --> 00:22:59,200
that it has all those oz figures there

643
00:23:04,070 --> 00:23:00,960
in the park itself

644
00:23:06,630 --> 00:23:04,080
we had a sighting out of indiana dunes

645
00:23:08,149 --> 00:23:06,640
yeah yeah we we had uh

646
00:23:10,070 --> 00:23:08,159
we interviewed a guy who who had a

647
00:23:11,669 --> 00:23:10,080
sighting out there too yeah

648
00:23:12,870 --> 00:23:11,679
uh

649
00:23:15,669 --> 00:23:12,880
from there

650
00:23:17,350 --> 00:23:15,679
uh west out into hammonds in that area

651
00:23:18,789 --> 00:23:17,360
there there have been some sleddings and

652
00:23:20,310 --> 00:23:18,799
um

653
00:23:21,909 --> 00:23:20,320
uh yeah

654
00:23:24,870 --> 00:23:21,919
so you know you you talked about the

655
00:23:27,669 --> 00:23:24,880
film itself um

656
00:23:30,230 --> 00:23:27,679
you know after after doing the film

657
00:23:32,310 --> 00:23:30,240
and you didn't even really touch much on

658
00:23:34,710 --> 00:23:32,320
what's going on out of the hair

659
00:23:37,110 --> 00:23:34,720
you're talk you mostly grabbed some of

660
00:23:39,909 --> 00:23:37,120
the earlier stuff but yeah you know the

661
00:23:42,390 --> 00:23:39,919
whole hair thing is just absolutely

662
00:23:45,750 --> 00:23:42,400
crazy what's going on out there

663
00:23:47,269 --> 00:23:45,760
yeah no i i it it's like this

664
00:23:49,029 --> 00:23:47,279
this movie really could have been like

665
00:23:51,990 --> 00:23:49,039
the first chapter

666
00:23:53,110 --> 00:23:52,000
in in like a series it's not going to be

667
00:23:54,310 --> 00:23:53,120
because

668
00:23:55,990 --> 00:23:54,320
um

669
00:23:57,590 --> 00:23:56,000
you know like i think

670
00:23:59,510 --> 00:23:57,600
i think i've said all that i want to say

671
00:24:00,710 --> 00:23:59,520
about about this particular case at this

672
00:24:02,070 --> 00:24:00,720
point like

673
00:24:09,590 --> 00:24:02,080
it's like

674
00:24:12,230 --> 00:24:09,600
i don't know man i did the amount of

675
00:24:15,029 --> 00:24:12,240
that i i just can't

676
00:24:16,149 --> 00:24:15,039
i've never been good about dealing with

677
00:24:17,110 --> 00:24:16,159
with

678
00:24:19,350 --> 00:24:17,120
different

679
00:24:21,350 --> 00:24:19,360
parties coming to me to complain about

680
00:24:24,070 --> 00:24:21,360
other like it's it's just a constant

681
00:24:25,510 --> 00:24:24,080
with this case yeah and um it's like one

682
00:24:26,710 --> 00:24:25,520
of those things where i'd rather just do

683
00:24:27,590 --> 00:24:26,720
stuff with

684
00:24:29,269 --> 00:24:27,600
with

685
00:24:31,269 --> 00:24:29,279
you know and i'm not

686
00:24:32,470 --> 00:24:31,279
i'm not specifically calling out one

687
00:24:35,110 --> 00:24:32,480
party it's just one of those things

688
00:24:37,110 --> 00:24:35,120
where like i i hate dealing with it yeah

689
00:24:38,950 --> 00:24:37,120
well i'm the same way yeah and i hate it

690
00:24:41,669 --> 00:24:38,960
i paid all the controversy for the very

691
00:24:44,789 --> 00:24:41,679
beginning and yeah there has been some i

692
00:24:46,789 --> 00:24:44,799
mean it's come back on us so many times

693
00:24:48,789 --> 00:24:46,799
and i know it's come back on you as well

694
00:24:50,390 --> 00:24:48,799
and it's just been

695
00:24:52,950 --> 00:24:50,400
it's just been a pain in the ass for the

696
00:24:55,750 --> 00:24:52,960
most part and it it doesn't it makes it

697
00:24:58,470 --> 00:24:55,760
a real pain sometimes to do it

698
00:25:02,070 --> 00:24:58,480
yeah but uh you know

699
00:25:04,870 --> 00:25:02,080
as long as we're getting sightings and

700
00:25:07,430 --> 00:25:04,880
and and you know more reports we're

701
00:25:08,390 --> 00:25:07,440
going to keep at it um

702
00:25:10,950 --> 00:25:08,400
i i

703
00:25:13,510 --> 00:25:10,960
it's always been my contention that for

704
00:25:16,549 --> 00:25:13,520
some reason people are trying to stop us

705
00:25:19,430 --> 00:25:16,559
from doing this and i don't know why

706
00:25:21,830 --> 00:25:19,440
but there there does seem to be that

707
00:25:24,149 --> 00:25:21,840
yeah did you get that kind of feeling

708
00:25:26,710 --> 00:25:24,159
why you were out there at all

709
00:25:29,750 --> 00:25:26,720
um i got the

710
00:25:32,230 --> 00:25:29,760
i don't know i don't

711
00:25:34,149 --> 00:25:32,240
mike my take on this case has changed

712
00:25:35,990 --> 00:25:34,159
dramatically i think just in the filming

713
00:25:38,070 --> 00:25:36,000
of this because like i really did not

714
00:25:41,430 --> 00:25:38,080
know

715
00:25:43,909 --> 00:25:41,440
how much of this was

716
00:25:45,990 --> 00:25:43,919
how much of this the the case was sort

717
00:25:50,070 --> 00:25:46,000
of like media hysteria at the time in

718
00:25:52,149 --> 00:25:50,080
2017 how much of it is like actual like

719
00:25:54,230 --> 00:25:52,159
you know like legitimate witness

720
00:25:57,350 --> 00:25:54,240
interviews and or witness site

721
00:25:59,830 --> 00:25:57,360
encounters and things like that i

722
00:26:01,909 --> 00:25:59,840
i'm at a place now where i think there's

723
00:26:03,990 --> 00:26:01,919
there's a lot more to it than

724
00:26:06,390 --> 00:26:04,000
most people realize especially the thing

725
00:26:08,789 --> 00:26:06,400
that fascinated me the most was the

726
00:26:10,470 --> 00:26:08,799
suburbs stuff um

727
00:26:11,909 --> 00:26:10,480
especially some of the people that

728
00:26:13,029 --> 00:26:11,919
tobias hooked us up with that we

729
00:26:13,909 --> 00:26:13,039
interviewed

730
00:26:16,310 --> 00:26:13,919
um

731
00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:16,320
the o'hare stuff is really interesting

732
00:26:19,990 --> 00:26:17,520
because

733
00:26:22,470 --> 00:26:20,000
um ellie who's in the movie i know she

734
00:26:24,549 --> 00:26:22,480
she knew more about that than

735
00:26:26,789 --> 00:26:24,559
i did and she had actually interviewed a

736
00:26:29,750 --> 00:26:26,799
couple witnesses even

737
00:26:30,950 --> 00:26:29,760
um so we were aware there was more that

738
00:26:33,909 --> 00:26:30,960
was going on than we were going to be

739
00:26:34,710 --> 00:26:33,919
able to get to yeah um part of our movie

740
00:26:36,070 --> 00:26:34,720
too

741
00:26:38,549 --> 00:26:36,080
i mean

742
00:26:40,549 --> 00:26:38,559
you know it's a movie that's more about

743
00:26:43,190 --> 00:26:40,559
the actual investigation than it is

744
00:26:44,950 --> 00:26:43,200
about the the encounters you know and

745
00:26:46,789 --> 00:26:44,960
and that's not something we

746
00:26:47,990 --> 00:26:46,799
traditionally do

747
00:26:50,830 --> 00:26:48,000
um

748
00:26:52,390 --> 00:26:50,840
i wanted to focus on

749
00:26:55,510 --> 00:26:52,400
uh

750
00:26:58,149 --> 00:26:55,520
who the people are involved and then why

751
00:26:58,870 --> 00:26:58,159
you all do what you do you know like i

752
00:27:00,710 --> 00:26:58,880
think

753
00:27:02,710 --> 00:27:00,720
that should be driven home by the final

754
00:27:04,310 --> 00:27:02,720
scene with you know tobias and emily in

755
00:27:07,110 --> 00:27:04,320
the park and i'm kind of talking about

756
00:27:08,950 --> 00:27:07,120
why it is that they do this

757
00:27:11,190 --> 00:27:08,960
but that's what really interested me

758
00:27:12,950 --> 00:27:11,200
initially but once we got into it and i

759
00:27:15,669 --> 00:27:12,960
started hearing some of the

760
00:27:16,710 --> 00:27:15,679
eyewitness reports that that that part

761
00:27:17,510 --> 00:27:16,720
of it

762
00:27:19,269 --> 00:27:17,520
uh

763
00:27:20,470 --> 00:27:19,279
kind of drew me in more than i was

764
00:27:23,029 --> 00:27:20,480
expecting

765
00:27:26,230 --> 00:27:23,039
well i'll be honest with you i myself

766
00:27:27,190 --> 00:27:26,240
tobias and emmanuel i i think we all

767
00:27:28,710 --> 00:27:27,200
thought

768
00:27:30,710 --> 00:27:28,720
that this thing would eventually die

769
00:27:31,990 --> 00:27:30,720
down and just not you know just kind of

770
00:27:33,990 --> 00:27:32,000
fade away

771
00:27:35,669 --> 00:27:34,000
but when this all started out at the

772
00:27:38,950 --> 00:27:35,679
airport

773
00:27:40,470 --> 00:27:38,960
and consistent sightings from reliable

774
00:27:43,110 --> 00:27:40,480
witnesses you know

775
00:27:43,990 --> 00:27:43,120
pilots cargo people

776
00:27:45,430 --> 00:27:44,000
uh

777
00:27:46,230 --> 00:27:45,440
you know it

778
00:27:49,590 --> 00:27:46,240
it

779
00:27:51,269 --> 00:27:49,600
where

780
00:27:55,750 --> 00:27:51,279
this past

781
00:27:58,950 --> 00:27:55,760
being videotaped

782
00:28:01,430 --> 00:27:58,960
and then uh tsa and um

783
00:28:03,669 --> 00:28:01,440
american airlines putting the kibosh on

784
00:28:06,470 --> 00:28:03,679
these guys and threatening to fire them

785
00:28:07,669 --> 00:28:06,480
if they didn't give them the the um the

786
00:28:09,990 --> 00:28:07,679
video

787
00:28:11,909 --> 00:28:10,000
and and actually watched them deleted

788
00:28:13,430 --> 00:28:11,919
all their phones

789
00:28:16,149 --> 00:28:13,440
that's uh

790
00:28:17,190 --> 00:28:16,159
that's getting a little hairy there and

791
00:28:18,470 --> 00:28:17,200
um

792
00:28:21,190 --> 00:28:18,480
i don't know if we're going to hear much

793
00:28:23,190 --> 00:28:21,200
about that you know personally we're

794
00:28:23,990 --> 00:28:23,200
going to hear some feedback because of

795
00:28:26,070 --> 00:28:24,000
that

796
00:28:28,389 --> 00:28:26,080
i don't know but you know it's gotten to

797
00:28:30,630 --> 00:28:28,399
the point now where

798
00:28:34,149 --> 00:28:30,640
you know i i think it's gonna have to

799
00:28:35,190 --> 00:28:34,159
come to a head soon and um

800
00:28:37,269 --> 00:28:35,200
you know

801
00:28:38,870 --> 00:28:37,279
look i'm looking for answers i want to

802
00:28:40,310 --> 00:28:38,880
know what the hell this thing is what

803
00:28:42,950 --> 00:28:40,320
these things are

804
00:28:46,070 --> 00:28:42,960
and um that you know that's why we're

805
00:28:48,470 --> 00:28:46,080
sticking with it and um

806
00:28:51,590 --> 00:28:48,480
so maybe one day we'll have some more

807
00:28:52,710 --> 00:28:51,600
answers to it who knows yeah yeah

808
00:28:54,710 --> 00:28:52,720
yeah there's

809
00:28:57,110 --> 00:28:54,720
you know i was i was interested too in

810
00:28:58,549 --> 00:28:57,120
the similarities between the 60s stuff

811
00:29:00,630 --> 00:28:58,559
if there are any

812
00:29:03,669 --> 00:29:00,640
um that was something that kept coming

813
00:29:05,590 --> 00:29:03,679
up during during our interviews was like

814
00:29:07,830 --> 00:29:05,600
you know asking all the various people

815
00:29:09,669 --> 00:29:07,840
involved including yourself like

816
00:29:11,110 --> 00:29:09,679
if you see any similarities between the

817
00:29:12,549 --> 00:29:11,120
60s stuff

818
00:29:13,830 --> 00:29:12,559
um

819
00:29:15,990 --> 00:29:13,840
it's hard to tell when it comes to

820
00:29:17,590 --> 00:29:16,000
mothman it's so hard to tell how much of

821
00:29:23,510 --> 00:29:17,600
the

822
00:29:26,230 --> 00:29:23,520
like how much of it is just

823
00:29:29,269 --> 00:29:26,240
sort of mythology modern mythology and

824
00:29:30,870 --> 00:29:29,279
how much of it is fact or or a loose

825
00:29:34,070 --> 00:29:30,880
interpretation of what was happening in

826
00:29:36,310 --> 00:29:34,080
the 60s you know like i killed keel

827
00:29:37,430 --> 00:29:36,320
added a lot to that story and i'm not

828
00:29:38,470 --> 00:29:37,440
i'm not just

829
00:29:40,230 --> 00:29:38,480
missing

830
00:29:42,950 --> 00:29:40,240
i'm not just taking shots of kiel but

831
00:29:44,950 --> 00:29:42,960
like anyone that knows anything about

832
00:29:47,590 --> 00:29:44,960
the actual events that happened in the

833
00:29:48,389 --> 00:29:47,600
60s know that keel built on

834
00:29:51,909 --> 00:29:48,399
to

835
00:29:54,870 --> 00:29:51,919
necessarily saying he

836
00:29:56,710 --> 00:29:54,880
fabricated it but he definitely took

837
00:29:57,990 --> 00:29:56,720
some creative license with certain

838
00:29:58,870 --> 00:29:58,000
aspects of it

839
00:30:00,789 --> 00:29:58,880
um

840
00:30:03,909 --> 00:30:00,799
he did you know and and he

841
00:30:06,389 --> 00:30:03,919
couldn't help but insert himself into it

842
00:30:08,870 --> 00:30:06,399
um in a way and and make himself like

843
00:30:10,389 --> 00:30:08,880
the central player so there's that

844
00:30:11,990 --> 00:30:10,399
component as well that you got to take

845
00:30:14,710 --> 00:30:12,000
with a grain of salt

846
00:30:17,590 --> 00:30:14,720
to me the best person to go to for

847
00:30:19,350 --> 00:30:17,600
the 60s stuff like actual fact if you

848
00:30:20,950 --> 00:30:19,360
want to know what happened it's jeff

849
00:30:22,789 --> 00:30:20,960
wombsley yeah i just don't think there's

850
00:30:23,830 --> 00:30:22,799
anyone else that has that level of

851
00:30:25,590 --> 00:30:23,840
knowledge

852
00:30:28,070 --> 00:30:25,600
and it's so he comes at it from such a

853
00:30:29,350 --> 00:30:28,080
grounded perspective like jeff doesn't

854
00:30:31,350 --> 00:30:29,360
i don't i don't even know if jeff

855
00:30:33,269 --> 00:30:31,360
believes the mothman was real like i

856
00:30:34,710 --> 00:30:33,279
just know that jeff is the guy that

857
00:30:37,269 --> 00:30:34,720
documents it

858
00:30:39,190 --> 00:30:37,279
takes the actual witness reports from

859
00:30:40,470 --> 00:30:39,200
that time period especially

860
00:30:42,149 --> 00:30:40,480
and that's what you're going to get when

861
00:30:44,070 --> 00:30:42,159
you talk to jeff and it's not going to

862
00:30:45,350 --> 00:30:44,080
have any of the the

863
00:30:47,750 --> 00:30:45,360
additional

864
00:30:51,190 --> 00:30:47,760
you know ancillary added on

865
00:30:53,830 --> 00:30:51,200
details that some of the other

866
00:30:56,389 --> 00:30:53,840
sources do is is somebody else taking

867
00:30:57,430 --> 00:30:56,399
over the museum for him

868
00:30:59,669 --> 00:30:57,440
uh

869
00:31:01,669 --> 00:30:59,679
not that i know of right now i know that

870
00:31:04,230 --> 00:31:01,679
eventually you know i think i think the

871
00:31:06,230 --> 00:31:04,240
plan would be to have ashley take over

872
00:31:07,430 --> 00:31:06,240
at some point and i know ashley ashley

873
00:31:08,789 --> 00:31:07,440
is supposed to have

874
00:31:10,070 --> 00:31:08,799
definitely some involvement in the

875
00:31:11,750 --> 00:31:10,080
festival she's always had a lot of

876
00:31:13,430 --> 00:31:11,760
involvement in the festival

877
00:31:15,509 --> 00:31:13,440
um and she does a lot with like put

878
00:31:18,470 --> 00:31:15,519
putting on events and stuff there

879
00:31:20,950 --> 00:31:18,480
but i don't know if uh i mean i could be

880
00:31:22,630 --> 00:31:20,960
out of the loop on that but

881
00:31:25,509 --> 00:31:22,640
yeah i don't know they've got they've

882
00:31:27,029 --> 00:31:25,519
got like the disney world of cryptids

883
00:31:29,509 --> 00:31:27,039
and the paranormal going on in point

884
00:31:31,269 --> 00:31:29,519
pleasant right now because you've got

885
00:31:33,430 --> 00:31:31,279
they've got the museum they've got two

886
00:31:34,549 --> 00:31:33,440
different stores it's like it's getting

887
00:31:37,669 --> 00:31:34,559
the point where you could go down there

888
00:31:39,750 --> 00:31:37,679
and make a whole weekend of it

889
00:31:40,870 --> 00:31:39,760
well you know that whole mason county

890
00:31:42,310 --> 00:31:40,880
area

891
00:31:43,830 --> 00:31:42,320
i mean

892
00:31:46,070 --> 00:31:43,840
we get settings down there all the time

893
00:31:48,710 --> 00:31:46,080
but what kinds of different stuff yeah

894
00:31:51,110 --> 00:31:48,720
and um you know it's just a crazy place

895
00:31:52,710 --> 00:31:51,120
and um

896
00:31:57,590 --> 00:31:52,720
the energy

897
00:32:00,630 --> 00:31:57,600
yeah so um

898
00:32:01,750 --> 00:32:00,640
yeah it's a weird weird spot um a lot of

899
00:32:04,389 --> 00:32:01,760
like

900
00:32:06,470 --> 00:32:04,399
obviously a lot of ufo reports out of

901
00:32:09,190 --> 00:32:06,480
that area but there's a ton of bigfoot

902
00:32:11,990 --> 00:32:09,200
stuff that happens down around i mean

903
00:32:13,990 --> 00:32:12,000
gallipolis or gala police depending on

904
00:32:15,590 --> 00:32:14,000
who you're asking how to pronounce that

905
00:32:18,310 --> 00:32:15,600
um is

906
00:32:19,830 --> 00:32:18,320
you know that's the the ape reports from

907
00:32:28,630 --> 00:32:19,840
the

908
00:32:30,470 --> 00:32:28,640
that's gallup gallopless area i mean

909
00:32:32,710 --> 00:32:30,480
there there's there's a history there i

910
00:32:35,190 --> 00:32:32,720
mean even the birdman stuff from the

911
00:32:38,710 --> 00:32:35,200
world war ii world war one time period

912
00:32:40,789 --> 00:32:38,720
you know predated them often so and let

913
00:32:43,269 --> 00:32:40,799
alone all the historical

914
00:32:45,509 --> 00:32:43,279
stuff that with the indigenous the

915
00:32:48,310 --> 00:32:45,519
shawnee and whatever is there before

916
00:32:50,950 --> 00:32:48,320
them it it is it's just loaded with

917
00:32:53,269 --> 00:32:50,960
energy there's a lot going on there

918
00:32:55,190 --> 00:32:53,279
the whole state's like that i mean i

919
00:32:57,669 --> 00:32:55,200
i just got back from western i was i was

920
00:32:58,870 --> 00:32:57,679
in west virginia virginia for four days

921
00:33:01,269 --> 00:32:58,880
um

922
00:33:03,269 --> 00:33:01,279
just just this past week uh went down

923
00:33:04,149 --> 00:33:03,279
there and did some hiking around davis

924
00:33:07,669 --> 00:33:04,159
uh

925
00:33:10,470 --> 00:33:07,679
canaan valley that area and i mean

926
00:33:12,630 --> 00:33:10,480
you can't beat that state

927
00:33:15,350 --> 00:33:12,640
for the the

928
00:33:18,070 --> 00:33:15,360
like the varied topography and the

929
00:33:21,029 --> 00:33:18,080
scenery and

930
00:33:22,549 --> 00:33:21,039
but there is a there's a genuine like

931
00:33:24,549 --> 00:33:22,559
i mean there's a beauty about that state

932
00:33:26,310 --> 00:33:24,559
but there is like an underlying sort of

933
00:33:27,430 --> 00:33:26,320
like weirdness to everything every place

934
00:33:28,710 --> 00:33:27,440
i go

935
00:33:32,230 --> 00:33:28,720
um

936
00:33:34,230 --> 00:33:32,240
but it is like it's my favorite state

937
00:33:36,389 --> 00:33:34,240
oh yeah by far like and we've been you

938
00:33:38,789 --> 00:33:36,399
know i've been at this point

939
00:33:41,590 --> 00:33:38,799
to to almost every state in the union i

940
00:33:44,630 --> 00:33:41,600
mean i still i just went to

941
00:33:46,149 --> 00:33:44,640
colorado and did hikes and stuff in in

942
00:33:47,990 --> 00:33:46,159
september and i

943
00:33:50,549 --> 00:33:48,000
some of the scenery i just saw in davis

944
00:33:51,669 --> 00:33:50,559
this past weekend out did colorado like

945
00:33:52,950 --> 00:33:51,679
i just

946
00:33:54,389 --> 00:33:52,960
i feel like every time i go there

947
00:33:57,029 --> 00:33:54,399
something

948
00:34:00,549 --> 00:33:57,039
surprises me or amazes me

949
00:34:03,190 --> 00:34:00,559
about that state i love it though

950
00:34:04,630 --> 00:34:03,200
well uh another film that i you gave me

951
00:34:06,710 --> 00:34:04,640
the opportunity to watch was on the

952
00:34:08,950 --> 00:34:06,720
trail of bigfoot the discovery which was

953
00:34:10,069 --> 00:34:08,960
a beautiful film i mean what all your

954
00:34:11,750 --> 00:34:10,079
films are

955
00:34:14,790 --> 00:34:11,760
they're they're

956
00:34:16,069 --> 00:34:14,800
very very well done very well edited

957
00:34:21,430 --> 00:34:16,079
um

958
00:34:23,990 --> 00:34:21,440
and the research team there

959
00:34:26,470 --> 00:34:24,000
on the peninsula uh tell us a little bit

960
00:34:28,310 --> 00:34:26,480
how that got going and uh

961
00:34:29,909 --> 00:34:28,320
some of the things that were highlighted

962
00:34:31,109 --> 00:34:29,919
in the film

963
00:34:35,589 --> 00:34:31,119
well we

964
00:34:37,829 --> 00:34:35,599
we had gone to the peninsula back in uh

965
00:34:39,909 --> 00:34:37,839
dang when was that 20 i guess it would

966
00:34:43,589 --> 00:34:39,919
have been 2018 we went

967
00:34:45,349 --> 00:34:43,599
um mark matzke and i and uh

968
00:34:47,589 --> 00:34:45,359
yeah the original plan was to make at

969
00:34:49,349 --> 00:34:47,599
least a couple episodes of on the trail

970
00:34:50,310 --> 00:34:49,359
of bigfoot that was going to be entirely

971
00:34:53,109 --> 00:34:50,320
about

972
00:34:55,909 --> 00:34:53,119
the peninsula so we met up with dara uh

973
00:34:57,190 --> 00:34:55,919
derek and shane from the olympic project

974
00:34:59,910 --> 00:34:57,200
and

975
00:35:02,150 --> 00:34:59,920
you know we interviewed them but um

976
00:35:03,990 --> 00:35:02,160
we were also filming the way that series

977
00:35:05,910 --> 00:35:04,000
originally the way on the trail bigfoot

978
00:35:08,310 --> 00:35:05,920
originally was filmed was like i did all

979
00:35:10,069 --> 00:35:08,320
the filming myself so i filmed in 22

980
00:35:12,470 --> 00:35:10,079
different states

981
00:35:14,470 --> 00:35:12,480
19 interviews i might have those

982
00:35:15,829 --> 00:35:14,480
reversed it might be 19 stage 22

983
00:35:16,790 --> 00:35:15,839
interviews but i was shooting it all

984
00:35:20,230 --> 00:35:16,800
myself

985
00:35:23,109 --> 00:35:20,240
and so it was it was a really crazy

986
00:35:25,030 --> 00:35:23,119
shoot uh just just in general but that

987
00:35:27,190 --> 00:35:25,040
particular trip was the wildest we had

988
00:35:28,790 --> 00:35:27,200
done like the day before we had been

989
00:35:30,390 --> 00:35:28,800
we'd flown into the southern end of

990
00:35:32,550 --> 00:35:30,400
washington and then booked it up to

991
00:35:34,310 --> 00:35:32,560
mount st helens and followed mark marcel

992
00:35:35,910 --> 00:35:34,320
up to mount st helens so we could film a

993
00:35:37,990 --> 00:35:35,920
canyon and we're doing this all before

994
00:35:39,430 --> 00:35:38,000
sunset and then we like rushed to a

995
00:35:40,710 --> 00:35:39,440
hotel so we could try to get some sleep

996
00:35:42,230 --> 00:35:40,720
before we had to get up the next morning

997
00:35:44,630 --> 00:35:42,240
drive to the other part of the state to

998
00:35:46,710 --> 00:35:44,640
go to the olympic peninsula

999
00:35:49,030 --> 00:35:46,720
and um so by the time we got to the

1000
00:35:50,550 --> 00:35:49,040
olympic peninsula we were already pretty

1001
00:35:53,349 --> 00:35:50,560
well exhausted

1002
00:35:56,790 --> 00:35:53,359
and uh we got in our interviews with

1003
00:36:00,230 --> 00:35:56,800
derek and shane and then shane marched

1004
00:36:01,510 --> 00:36:00,240
mark matzke and i up the this mountain

1005
00:36:03,589 --> 00:36:01,520
behind the

1006
00:36:06,470 --> 00:36:03,599
uh olympic project hq and i ended up

1007
00:36:08,950 --> 00:36:06,480
getting like vicious altitude sickness

1008
00:36:10,710 --> 00:36:08,960
uh and so because of that the entire

1009
00:36:12,870 --> 00:36:10,720
shoot was pretty much cancelled from

1010
00:36:14,230 --> 00:36:12,880
then out i was i was like mark was

1011
00:36:15,990 --> 00:36:14,240
trying to get me down to a lower

1012
00:36:17,829 --> 00:36:16,000
altitude over the next two days but i

1013
00:36:20,230 --> 00:36:17,839
could i mean it was bad i could barely

1014
00:36:22,230 --> 00:36:20,240
breathe i was vomiting like nonsense it

1015
00:36:23,589 --> 00:36:22,240
was as bad as you can get with altitude

1016
00:36:25,349 --> 00:36:23,599
sickness he was right on the verge of

1017
00:36:26,630 --> 00:36:25,359
like taking me the er

1018
00:36:28,790 --> 00:36:26,640
but um

1019
00:36:31,349 --> 00:36:28,800
but we got we we basically we were able

1020
00:36:33,270 --> 00:36:31,359
to make what we got shot work but it

1021
00:36:34,790 --> 00:36:33,280
wasn't what i had wanted to do so we

1022
00:36:37,510 --> 00:36:34,800
always knew we wanted to go back out

1023
00:36:39,030 --> 00:36:37,520
there and do an olympic peninsula slash

1024
00:36:42,470 --> 00:36:39,040
olympic project

1025
00:36:44,790 --> 00:36:42,480
film so that's what this is um

1026
00:36:46,630 --> 00:36:44,800
it it was originally supposed to be like

1027
00:36:49,109 --> 00:36:46,640
really expansive like i wanted it to be

1028
00:36:51,430 --> 00:36:49,119
this big broad look at like the history

1029
00:36:53,750 --> 00:36:51,440
of activity like bigfoot sightings on

1030
00:36:56,230 --> 00:36:53,760
the olympic peninsula and how that

1031
00:36:57,829 --> 00:36:56,240
inspired the olympic project to start

1032
00:37:00,150 --> 00:36:57,839
and then you know like the nests would

1033
00:37:02,230 --> 00:37:00,160
be this small sort of like

1034
00:37:04,310 --> 00:37:02,240
side angle to that and instead the

1035
00:37:07,190 --> 00:37:04,320
movie's pretty much about the nests like

1036
00:37:09,109 --> 00:37:07,200
it's it's it's very much about this

1037
00:37:10,390 --> 00:37:09,119
one discovery that's been made by the

1038
00:37:11,910 --> 00:37:10,400
olympic project which are these

1039
00:37:13,750 --> 00:37:11,920
purported nests

1040
00:37:15,910 --> 00:37:13,760
uh that they discovered

1041
00:37:19,750 --> 00:37:15,920
uh on a finger ridge

1042
00:37:22,230 --> 00:37:19,760
somewhere along the olympic peninsula

1043
00:37:24,550 --> 00:37:22,240
and how that's you know impacting the

1044
00:37:26,630 --> 00:37:24,560
group how the group goes about capturing

1045
00:37:28,870 --> 00:37:26,640
the evidence that they do

1046
00:37:30,390 --> 00:37:28,880
and um you know what inspired them to

1047
00:37:32,230 --> 00:37:30,400
get involved and then some of the

1048
00:37:34,950 --> 00:37:32,240
experiences they've had

1049
00:37:35,990 --> 00:37:34,960
uh over the their years investigating

1050
00:37:38,150 --> 00:37:36,000
bigfoot

1051
00:37:39,270 --> 00:37:38,160
on on the olympic peninsula

1052
00:37:41,030 --> 00:37:39,280
um

1053
00:37:43,030 --> 00:37:41,040
and then while we were doing that alex

1054
00:37:44,710 --> 00:37:43,040
and eli alexander petticov and eli

1055
00:37:46,870 --> 00:37:44,720
watson were out there as well filming

1056
00:37:48,950 --> 00:37:46,880
beyond the trail and so what you have is

1057
00:37:50,950 --> 00:37:48,960
you have these two chapters basically of

1058
00:37:53,270 --> 00:37:50,960
one story which is

1059
00:37:56,069 --> 00:37:53,280
the discovery is the big sort of broad

1060
00:37:57,270 --> 00:37:56,079
look at the nest site and then beyond

1061
00:37:58,390 --> 00:37:57,280
the trail

1062
00:38:03,030 --> 00:37:58,400
um

1063
00:38:05,430 --> 00:38:03,040
olympic bigfoot you can find it on our

1064
00:38:07,670 --> 00:38:05,440
youtube channel um alex and eli actually

1065
00:38:08,950 --> 00:38:07,680
went and like camped in the nest site so

1066
00:38:10,710 --> 00:38:08,960
they were the first people to stay

1067
00:38:13,510 --> 00:38:10,720
overnight in the nest site

1068
00:38:16,790 --> 00:38:13,520
um and then you get a much

1069
00:38:19,190 --> 00:38:16,800
closer view of not just the nest site

1070
00:38:20,950 --> 00:38:19,200
but the the the um

1071
00:38:22,230 --> 00:38:20,960
terrain around the nest site so it's a

1072
00:38:24,950 --> 00:38:22,240
really cool

1073
00:38:26,710 --> 00:38:24,960
you know if you watch both of those

1074
00:38:28,230 --> 00:38:26,720
films i think you get a really concise

1075
00:38:30,630 --> 00:38:28,240
view of what's going on there with the

1076
00:38:32,870 --> 00:38:30,640
nests um

1077
00:38:35,190 --> 00:38:32,880
having said that like we didn't even

1078
00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:35,200
touch the surface of scratch the surface

1079
00:38:39,430 --> 00:38:36,720
of what's going on with like the olympic

1080
00:38:41,270 --> 00:38:39,440
project and yeah not just the nests but

1081
00:38:42,870 --> 00:38:41,280
but just the activity they've

1082
00:38:43,750 --> 00:38:42,880
experienced things that have gone on

1083
00:38:44,790 --> 00:38:43,760
there

1084
00:38:46,470 --> 00:38:44,800
um

1085
00:38:48,310 --> 00:38:46,480
you know i mean our movie didn't really

1086
00:38:49,829 --> 00:38:48,320
get into any of the dna evidence

1087
00:38:51,349 --> 00:38:49,839
collected there any of the evidence

1088
00:38:53,510 --> 00:38:51,359
collected there the hair samples that

1089
00:38:57,030 --> 00:38:53,520
kind of stuff um

1090
00:38:59,510 --> 00:38:57,040
there's much more to the nest site than

1091
00:39:00,710 --> 00:38:59,520
than what our film

1092
00:39:02,069 --> 00:39:00,720
got to

1093
00:39:04,390 --> 00:39:02,079
um

1094
00:39:08,310 --> 00:39:04,400
but i i'm

1095
00:39:10,230 --> 00:39:08,320
very much uh anticipating doing a a

1096
00:39:11,829 --> 00:39:10,240
series for youtube at some point in the

1097
00:39:13,430 --> 00:39:11,839
next two years that we'll be focused

1098
00:39:15,270 --> 00:39:13,440
entirely on

1099
00:39:16,630 --> 00:39:15,280
the olympic project the nest site all

1100
00:39:17,910 --> 00:39:16,640
the things they've collected i haven't

1101
00:39:19,030 --> 00:39:17,920
even talked to them yet so if they're

1102
00:39:20,790 --> 00:39:19,040
watching this this will be the first

1103
00:39:22,310 --> 00:39:20,800
time they've heard that but um that's

1104
00:39:23,670 --> 00:39:22,320
something that's something i want to do

1105
00:39:26,150 --> 00:39:23,680
i want to go out there and be out there

1106
00:39:27,109 --> 00:39:26,160
for probably like a month or more and

1107
00:39:29,990 --> 00:39:27,119
really

1108
00:39:32,630 --> 00:39:30,000
get the focus much heavier on what

1109
00:39:34,310 --> 00:39:32,640
they've collected out there

1110
00:39:35,589 --> 00:39:34,320
well you know the nest site is

1111
00:39:38,069 --> 00:39:35,599
interesting

1112
00:39:40,710 --> 00:39:38,079
have they have they've gotten or found

1113
00:39:41,589 --> 00:39:40,720
any fresher nest sites that you know of

1114
00:39:42,550 --> 00:39:41,599
yet

1115
00:39:46,150 --> 00:39:42,560
yeah

1116
00:39:48,550 --> 00:39:46,160
one that we

1117
00:39:51,670 --> 00:39:48,560
were at is i think the oldest there

1118
00:39:53,829 --> 00:39:51,680
um there was an there was a newer one

1119
00:39:56,550 --> 00:39:53,839
uh that was discovered and then i think

1120
00:39:58,310 --> 00:39:56,560
there was even another one which i

1121
00:40:00,710 --> 00:39:58,320
believe is the nest site that they

1122
00:40:02,390 --> 00:40:00,720
walked up on the the bigfoot actually

1123
00:40:04,870 --> 00:40:02,400
building they think they actually came

1124
00:40:06,550 --> 00:40:04,880
upon one when it was it was building it

1125
00:40:08,550 --> 00:40:06,560
um but i'm also

1126
00:40:12,150 --> 00:40:08,560
i've also heard

1127
00:40:14,790 --> 00:40:12,160
of other nests being discovered now um

1128
00:40:16,710 --> 00:40:14,800
elsewhere sort of using the data that

1129
00:40:20,230 --> 00:40:16,720
they collected to to look for these

1130
00:40:23,510 --> 00:40:20,240
things there's there's a very specific

1131
00:40:25,589 --> 00:40:23,520
uh data set in place here as to like why

1132
00:40:27,349 --> 00:40:25,599
where these things are found what

1133
00:40:29,670 --> 00:40:27,359
they're you know like what where they're

1134
00:40:32,870 --> 00:40:29,680
located and other people have been

1135
00:40:34,470 --> 00:40:32,880
looking for similar things in similar

1136
00:40:36,390 --> 00:40:34,480
locations i think

1137
00:40:38,630 --> 00:40:36,400
i think there have been

1138
00:40:41,109 --> 00:40:38,640
at least comparable

1139
00:40:42,230 --> 00:40:41,119
uh locations discovered now the thing is

1140
00:40:44,309 --> 00:40:42,240
like

1141
00:40:47,030 --> 00:40:44,319
it's

1142
00:40:49,270 --> 00:40:47,040
i talked to i think it was cliff

1143
00:40:50,829 --> 00:40:49,280
uh berkman about this and uh

1144
00:40:53,990 --> 00:40:50,839
you know when you when

1145
00:40:56,630 --> 00:40:54,000
you if you're the type of person whose

1146
00:40:58,630 --> 00:40:56,640
view of the bigfoot subject is kind of

1147
00:41:01,670 --> 00:40:58,640
like formed by

1148
00:41:03,030 --> 00:41:01,680
the hot new like blurry video

1149
00:41:05,190 --> 00:41:03,040
of like something running through the

1150
00:41:07,109 --> 00:41:05,200
woods that you're gonna find on youtube

1151
00:41:09,430 --> 00:41:07,119
then on the trail of bigfoot the

1152
00:41:10,150 --> 00:41:09,440
discovery is probably not for you like

1153
00:41:11,270 --> 00:41:10,160
right

1154
00:41:18,710 --> 00:41:11,280
it's not

1155
00:41:21,430 --> 00:41:18,720
i'm probably never gonna be that um what

1156
00:41:22,550 --> 00:41:21,440
it is is if you

1157
00:41:24,390 --> 00:41:22,560
uh

1158
00:41:26,950 --> 00:41:24,400
if you

1159
00:41:30,470 --> 00:41:26,960
uh logically view

1160
00:41:32,550 --> 00:41:30,480
what we found where we found it

1161
00:41:35,030 --> 00:41:32,560
i do not get the people that are still

1162
00:41:36,150 --> 00:41:35,040
insistent that this is bears building

1163
00:41:37,030 --> 00:41:36,160
this stuff

1164
00:41:39,030 --> 00:41:37,040
it

1165
00:41:42,630 --> 00:41:39,040
does not make sense

1166
00:41:44,630 --> 00:41:42,640
um for a bear to do this that's not a

1167
00:41:46,829 --> 00:41:44,640
you know like and i'm hoping in the film

1168
00:41:50,870 --> 00:41:46,839
you can really see

1169
00:41:52,550 --> 00:41:50,880
the when we walked into that nest site

1170
00:41:54,550 --> 00:41:52,560
you know like one one good thing about

1171
00:41:56,870 --> 00:41:54,560
the movie is like you you get a sense of

1172
00:41:59,030 --> 00:41:56,880
just how thick the underbrush is in in

1173
00:42:00,630 --> 00:41:59,040
that place like the hill like when we're

1174
00:42:03,910 --> 00:42:00,640
going in it looks like we're being

1175
00:42:06,630 --> 00:42:03,920
swallowed up by the by the forest like

1176
00:42:07,670 --> 00:42:06,640
it's it's thick man and i come from ohio

1177
00:42:09,349 --> 00:42:07,680
like we have

1178
00:42:11,430 --> 00:42:09,359
you know like salt fork you can't walk

1179
00:42:14,069 --> 00:42:11,440
off a trail and salt fork like it's not

1180
00:42:15,270 --> 00:42:14,079
possible um because the underbrush is so

1181
00:42:16,710 --> 00:42:15,280
thick but

1182
00:42:19,910 --> 00:42:16,720
but this was an underbrush like i've

1183
00:42:21,190 --> 00:42:19,920
never experienced anywhere and um

1184
00:42:23,910 --> 00:42:21,200
and so

1185
00:42:25,670 --> 00:42:23,920
you come when we came into the nest site

1186
00:42:27,589 --> 00:42:25,680
there was an immediate change in

1187
00:42:30,390 --> 00:42:27,599
everything around us like you could see

1188
00:42:31,990 --> 00:42:30,400
that that particular location that one

1189
00:42:35,109 --> 00:42:32,000
location the nest site where the nests

1190
00:42:36,870 --> 00:42:35,119
were found had just been devastated like

1191
00:42:40,950 --> 00:42:36,880
everything had been picked clean to

1192
00:42:43,589 --> 00:42:40,960
build those nests and in a very large

1193
00:42:45,670 --> 00:42:43,599
chunk of that forest and

1194
00:42:47,109 --> 00:42:45,680
it doesn't make sense like you know

1195
00:42:49,030 --> 00:42:47,119
people are like people are like well

1196
00:42:51,829 --> 00:42:49,040
it's a bear or i've heard people say

1197
00:42:53,190 --> 00:42:51,839
it's like squirrels and raccoons like it

1198
00:42:55,589 --> 00:42:53,200
i mean like

1199
00:42:58,630 --> 00:42:55,599
i mean the the ground looks like large

1200
00:43:01,270 --> 00:42:58,640
kettles built out you know so you know

1201
00:43:03,990 --> 00:43:01,280
it's it's it's you know something is in

1202
00:43:06,069 --> 00:43:04,000
there making those lords nest and sure

1203
00:43:08,069 --> 00:43:06,079
isn't a squirrel or

1204
00:43:09,589 --> 00:43:08,079
a raccoon or something doing it and let

1205
00:43:11,670 --> 00:43:09,599
alone a bear

1206
00:43:12,390 --> 00:43:11,680
so yeah and i've heard so the the other

1207
00:43:13,910 --> 00:43:12,400
thing

1208
00:43:15,910 --> 00:43:13,920
you know i mean obviously when we make

1209
00:43:17,030 --> 00:43:15,920
these movies we get all the responses on

1210
00:43:18,390 --> 00:43:17,040
youtube

1211
00:43:19,829 --> 00:43:18,400
there's a lot of like trolling type

1212
00:43:21,910 --> 00:43:19,839
stuff one of the ones one of the things

1213
00:43:22,950 --> 00:43:21,920
that i've heard is like it was

1214
00:43:24,710 --> 00:43:22,960
it was

1215
00:43:28,790 --> 00:43:24,720
military

1216
00:43:29,990 --> 00:43:28,800
the woods building these

1217
00:43:31,910 --> 00:43:30,000
um

1218
00:43:33,990 --> 00:43:31,920
nests for training exercises or

1219
00:43:37,589 --> 00:43:34,000
something like that um

1220
00:43:39,589 --> 00:43:37,599
which that one is at least a lot like

1221
00:43:42,069 --> 00:43:39,599
there's some logic behind that like i

1222
00:43:43,430 --> 00:43:42,079
guess i could see that making more sense

1223
00:43:46,069 --> 00:43:43,440
than a bear

1224
00:43:48,230 --> 00:43:46,079
uh or a squirrel um

1225
00:43:50,550 --> 00:43:48,240
but even that one kind of stretches the

1226
00:43:51,589 --> 00:43:50,560
boundaries of the imagination i mean i

1227
00:43:53,910 --> 00:43:51,599
just

1228
00:43:57,430 --> 00:43:53,920
you know it's one of those things where

1229
00:44:00,230 --> 00:43:57,440
i think over time this is the this will

1230
00:44:02,150 --> 00:44:00,240
be a much bigger piece of the puzzle

1231
00:44:03,670 --> 00:44:02,160
and then people are realizing i think

1232
00:44:05,109 --> 00:44:03,680
the nest site is is going to be a very

1233
00:44:06,550 --> 00:44:05,119
big piece of the puzzle i think between

1234
00:44:10,069 --> 00:44:06,560
that and some of the stuff that's going

1235
00:44:13,270 --> 00:44:10,079
on and like area x and the ouachitas

1236
00:44:15,270 --> 00:44:13,280
in oklahoma and then

1237
00:44:16,150 --> 00:44:15,280
man i'm honestly hoping there's some

1238
00:44:18,470 --> 00:44:16,160
stuff that's going to come out of

1239
00:44:19,430 --> 00:44:18,480
minerva because i feel like there's

1240
00:44:21,270 --> 00:44:19,440
you know like the things we're

1241
00:44:24,309 --> 00:44:21,280
experiencing there

1242
00:44:25,829 --> 00:44:24,319
if we can document some of that stuff

1243
00:44:27,750 --> 00:44:25,839
um

1244
00:44:29,510 --> 00:44:27,760
you know i think all of this if we can

1245
00:44:32,069 --> 00:44:29,520
put it all together maybe over time we

1246
00:44:34,230 --> 00:44:32,079
can we can build a better picture of

1247
00:44:36,390 --> 00:44:34,240
what's taking place

1248
00:44:39,270 --> 00:44:36,400
i don't know nothing i mean

1249
00:44:42,069 --> 00:44:39,280
i hesitate to to hope that i will

1250
00:44:45,510 --> 00:44:42,079
somehow be involved in capturing some

1251
00:44:48,630 --> 00:44:45,520
sort of evidence relating to bigfoot but

1252
00:44:51,270 --> 00:44:48,640
man i mean that spot in minerva is like

1253
00:44:52,390 --> 00:44:51,280
it's it's if it's ever gonna happen that

1254
00:44:53,910 --> 00:44:52,400
seems like the perfect place because

1255
00:44:57,190 --> 00:44:53,920
there's not that much there's not that

1256
00:44:59,190 --> 00:44:57,200
much habitat for them to hide in uh out

1257
00:45:00,790 --> 00:44:59,200
in minerva ohio compared to some place

1258
00:45:03,829 --> 00:45:00,800
like the olympic peninsula or the

1259
00:45:06,309 --> 00:45:03,839
watchtowers like you're you're in ohio

1260
00:45:07,829 --> 00:45:06,319
apache forest you know

1261
00:45:10,470 --> 00:45:07,839
well you know

1262
00:45:12,710 --> 00:45:10,480
this is what gets me about

1263
00:45:14,950 --> 00:45:12,720
how you talk about ohio i think about

1264
00:45:16,790 --> 00:45:14,960
pennsylvania maryland you know

1265
00:45:19,190 --> 00:45:16,800
it's nothing like it is out in

1266
00:45:22,069 --> 00:45:19,200
washington it's um you know it's all

1267
00:45:23,990 --> 00:45:22,079
hardwood forest and um

1268
00:45:26,950 --> 00:45:24,000
you know it's under brush and you can

1269
00:45:29,109 --> 00:45:26,960
see through these forest and

1270
00:45:31,109 --> 00:45:29,119
some of the sightings you get it's just

1271
00:45:34,309 --> 00:45:31,119
you wonder where these things hiding at

1272
00:45:35,990 --> 00:45:34,319
you know it's it's it's amazing but you

1273
00:45:38,790 --> 00:45:36,000
know the amount of settings you get in

1274
00:45:40,470 --> 00:45:38,800
those two seats uh pennsylvania ohio is

1275
00:45:42,230 --> 00:45:40,480
just ridiculous

1276
00:45:44,150 --> 00:45:42,240
that's that's the big thing right now

1277
00:45:46,710 --> 00:45:44,160
actually with the show with the bigfoot

1278
00:45:48,390 --> 00:45:46,720
project has been kind of like

1279
00:45:49,990 --> 00:45:48,400
putting trying to put together the

1280
00:45:52,950 --> 00:45:50,000
pieces of where these things might

1281
00:45:54,790 --> 00:45:52,960
actually be hiding um because especially

1282
00:45:57,829 --> 00:45:54,800
in that particular

1283
00:45:59,910 --> 00:45:57,839
location that some of the forest around

1284
00:46:01,349 --> 00:45:59,920
that property that we're staying on has

1285
00:46:02,870 --> 00:46:01,359
has been

1286
00:46:06,230 --> 00:46:02,880
deforested

1287
00:46:08,550 --> 00:46:06,240
to some extent over the last two years

1288
00:46:12,550 --> 00:46:10,710
what's up buddy

1289
00:46:15,750 --> 00:46:12,560
can you can you go back in there

1290
00:46:17,589 --> 00:46:15,760
yep jeep okay i'll be in in a minute

1291
00:46:19,589 --> 00:46:17,599
all right head in i'll come get you

1292
00:46:21,190 --> 00:46:19,599
hungry okay come get your snack in a

1293
00:46:23,670 --> 00:46:21,200
minute

1294
00:46:26,150 --> 00:46:23,680
um but yeah the the the amount of

1295
00:46:27,910 --> 00:46:26,160
activity and and what we're experiencing

1296
00:46:29,829 --> 00:46:27,920
and then you're looking at an

1297
00:46:32,230 --> 00:46:29,839
at a property i mean their property is

1298
00:46:34,309 --> 00:46:32,240
about 400 some acres like maybe 470

1299
00:46:36,230 --> 00:46:34,319
acres but it's adjoined by

1300
00:46:38,309 --> 00:46:36,240
property that's owned by either close

1301
00:46:39,349 --> 00:46:38,319
family friends or

1302
00:46:41,109 --> 00:46:39,359
family

1303
00:46:44,069 --> 00:46:41,119
so we can get onto all these other

1304
00:46:45,510 --> 00:46:44,079
properties and um you know it is it is

1305
00:46:46,950 --> 00:46:45,520
ohio like you do have that thick

1306
00:46:49,190 --> 00:46:46,960
undergrowth where these things could

1307
00:46:51,670 --> 00:46:49,200
maybe go into

1308
00:46:53,910 --> 00:46:51,680
you know some some of the more dense

1309
00:46:55,270 --> 00:46:53,920
undergrowth and and create something

1310
00:46:57,270 --> 00:46:55,280
like those nests that we're seeing out

1311
00:46:59,109 --> 00:46:57,280
out in washington that's something i

1312
00:47:00,950 --> 00:46:59,119
want to look for there

1313
00:47:03,430 --> 00:47:00,960
i want to really try to like bushwhack

1314
00:47:04,550 --> 00:47:03,440
into some of those dense brushy areas

1315
00:47:07,030 --> 00:47:04,560
and see if we can't find something

1316
00:47:08,870 --> 00:47:07,040
copper comparable to that

1317
00:47:11,829 --> 00:47:08,880
i think that would be like if we can

1318
00:47:13,109 --> 00:47:11,839
find something similar on the east coast

1319
00:47:15,030 --> 00:47:13,119
to what they're finding on the west

1320
00:47:17,030 --> 00:47:15,040
coast that'd be pretty amazing that'd be

1321
00:47:19,190 --> 00:47:17,040
yeah that would be amazing

1322
00:47:20,390 --> 00:47:19,200
and quite frankly i have heard nothing

1323
00:47:22,390 --> 00:47:20,400
like that

1324
00:47:24,150 --> 00:47:22,400
on the east i mean i i don't even think

1325
00:47:25,430 --> 00:47:24,160
i've ever had a report of anything like

1326
00:47:26,390 --> 00:47:25,440
that

1327
00:47:29,510 --> 00:47:26,400
no

1328
00:47:30,630 --> 00:47:29,520
from your film yeah

1329
00:47:32,870 --> 00:47:30,640
yeah i

1330
00:47:34,710 --> 00:47:32,880
i the only thing about that is that's

1331
00:47:36,150 --> 00:47:34,720
you know that huckleberry i know they're

1332
00:47:37,349 --> 00:47:36,160
they're using that huckleberry i don't

1333
00:47:39,510 --> 00:47:37,359
even know if we have that type of

1334
00:47:41,109 --> 00:47:39,520
huckleberry here in ohio you know

1335
00:47:42,390 --> 00:47:41,119
because because that the huckleberry out

1336
00:47:45,030 --> 00:47:42,400
there is those big

1337
00:47:46,790 --> 00:47:45,040
thick like like the pretty decent-sized

1338
00:47:49,190 --> 00:47:46,800
leaves we don't quite have that they're

1339
00:47:51,030 --> 00:47:49,200
they're also like real tall they're like

1340
00:47:53,109 --> 00:47:51,040
it's like mini trees or something we

1341
00:47:54,150 --> 00:47:53,119
don't we don't really have that

1342
00:47:55,190 --> 00:47:54,160
here

1343
00:47:57,910 --> 00:47:55,200
so i don't know if that's going to

1344
00:47:59,030 --> 00:47:57,920
affect that or not but you would also

1345
00:48:00,950 --> 00:47:59,040
expect

1346
00:48:01,750 --> 00:48:00,960
if that if we're dealing with some sort

1347
00:48:03,589 --> 00:48:01,760
of

1348
00:48:06,390 --> 00:48:03,599
undiscovered primate or something which

1349
00:48:08,230 --> 00:48:06,400
is my personal opinion on this thing

1350
00:48:09,430 --> 00:48:08,240
um that they would

1351
00:48:11,910 --> 00:48:09,440
they should

1352
00:48:13,670 --> 00:48:11,920
operate the same on both coasts right i

1353
00:48:15,109 --> 00:48:13,680
mean unless unless we're going with like

1354
00:48:17,910 --> 00:48:15,119
the multiple

1355
00:48:19,190 --> 00:48:17,920
you know types theory i don't know

1356
00:48:20,630 --> 00:48:19,200
it gets you thinking like the thing

1357
00:48:22,950 --> 00:48:20,640
about bigfoot

1358
00:48:25,510 --> 00:48:22,960
is when i when i got into it it was just

1359
00:48:27,109 --> 00:48:25,520
this fun kind of like urban myth

1360
00:48:29,190 --> 00:48:27,119
you know like urban legend kind of thing

1361
00:48:31,030 --> 00:48:29,200
like oh there's there's monsters living

1362
00:48:35,990 --> 00:48:31,040
in the woods behind your house and then

1363
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:40,069
when you start to experience it you

1364
00:48:44,710 --> 00:48:42,150
your your outlook on it and the way you

1365
00:48:46,790 --> 00:48:44,720
think about it changes dramatically

1366
00:48:49,109 --> 00:48:46,800
um you know like you start to wonder

1367
00:48:51,750 --> 00:48:49,119
like how do they how the heck do they

1368
00:48:54,069 --> 00:48:51,760
live out here how the heck do they

1369
00:48:56,069 --> 00:48:54,079
function you know like it's it's just a

1370
00:48:58,150 --> 00:48:56,079
it totally changes the way you talk and

1371
00:49:00,309 --> 00:48:58,160
think about

1372
00:49:02,630 --> 00:49:00,319
well you know when i had my encounter i

1373
00:49:04,630 --> 00:49:02,640
never even thought about bigfoot little

1374
00:49:06,870 --> 00:49:04,640
i mean i might have

1375
00:49:08,790 --> 00:49:06,880
i heard about you know the paddy film

1376
00:49:10,870 --> 00:49:08,800
and i heard about maybe uh

1377
00:49:13,109 --> 00:49:10,880
you know the uh

1378
00:49:15,270 --> 00:49:13,119
vlog the boggy creek film that was about

1379
00:49:17,349 --> 00:49:15,280
it that was 81. but when i had my

1380
00:49:19,109 --> 00:49:17,359
encounter i'm thinking myself

1381
00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:19,119
is this a bigfoot or what the hell is

1382
00:49:24,870 --> 00:49:21,760
this thing you know and i really

1383
00:49:26,470 --> 00:49:24,880
but i was hooked i mean you know i

1384
00:49:29,829 --> 00:49:26,480
wanted to find out after that what the

1385
00:49:31,829 --> 00:49:29,839
hell i was looking at and uh

1386
00:49:33,670 --> 00:49:31,839
yeah you know and it's something you

1387
00:49:35,510 --> 00:49:33,680
never forget and of course you know that

1388
00:49:36,950 --> 00:49:35,520
i mean now you're experiencing things as

1389
00:49:38,390 --> 00:49:36,960
you're doing this

1390
00:49:39,910 --> 00:49:38,400
right

1391
00:49:42,470 --> 00:49:39,920
makes you think

1392
00:49:44,710 --> 00:49:42,480
yeah no totally it totally does it's

1393
00:49:46,630 --> 00:49:44,720
been fun too to kind of watch

1394
00:49:48,790 --> 00:49:46,640
other people around me

1395
00:49:51,670 --> 00:49:48,800
you know kind of have the way they view

1396
00:49:53,670 --> 00:49:51,680
it adjusted someone as well we took we

1397
00:49:55,990 --> 00:49:53,680
took less adele with us out there for

1398
00:49:57,430 --> 00:49:56,000
episode three the one that's coming out

1399
00:49:59,750 --> 00:49:57,440
on sunday and that was interesting too

1400
00:50:00,870 --> 00:49:59,760
because les is much more like

1401
00:50:02,150 --> 00:50:00,880
um

1402
00:50:03,990 --> 00:50:02,160
i wouldn't say he's in the like

1403
00:50:06,150 --> 00:50:04,000
paranormal camp i think he's open to

1404
00:50:08,549 --> 00:50:06,160
whatever but he's probably more in that

1405
00:50:10,150 --> 00:50:08,559
like open to whatever camp than i am

1406
00:50:12,230 --> 00:50:10,160
and so like

1407
00:50:14,069 --> 00:50:12,240
so his you know his outlook on it was

1408
00:50:15,109 --> 00:50:14,079
very different from mine

1409
00:50:16,549 --> 00:50:15,119
and um

1410
00:50:17,829 --> 00:50:16,559
and i mean there is stuff that's the

1411
00:50:19,510 --> 00:50:17,839
other thing about being out there though

1412
00:50:21,109 --> 00:50:19,520
there's there's strange stuff happening

1413
00:50:22,790 --> 00:50:21,119
out there that kind of flies in the face

1414
00:50:25,270 --> 00:50:22,800
of like the typical

1415
00:50:27,829 --> 00:50:25,280
flesh and blood ape theory i don't

1416
00:50:29,750 --> 00:50:27,839
necessarily think the the activity is

1417
00:50:32,390 --> 00:50:29,760
connected though like we've had we've

1418
00:50:34,069 --> 00:50:32,400
had this weird like electronic humming

1419
00:50:36,150 --> 00:50:34,079
that's happening at night

1420
00:50:37,910 --> 00:50:36,160
keep in mind that there's a um

1421
00:50:39,910 --> 00:50:37,920
there's a power line

1422
00:50:41,430 --> 00:50:39,920
very very large power line at the top of

1423
00:50:43,750 --> 00:50:41,440
the hill so whenever i talk to people

1424
00:50:47,030 --> 00:50:43,760
about this they're like oh it's just the

1425
00:50:49,750 --> 00:50:47,040
high tension power lines i'm like no

1426
00:50:51,430 --> 00:50:49,760
it literally shakes the cabin like i've

1427
00:50:53,589 --> 00:50:51,440
i've been woken

1428
00:50:55,589 --> 00:50:53,599
in the middle of the night by humming

1429
00:50:57,990 --> 00:50:55,599
that was so loud that the windows were

1430
00:51:00,309 --> 00:50:58,000
vibrating um we've had

1431
00:51:02,950 --> 00:51:00,319
the humming went five hours the first

1432
00:51:04,470 --> 00:51:02,960
time we heard it it started at like

1433
00:51:05,990 --> 00:51:04,480
midnight we're still going the next

1434
00:51:07,510 --> 00:51:06,000
morning like it was it was nuts and

1435
00:51:08,390 --> 00:51:07,520
you'll hear it in that third episode

1436
00:51:09,990 --> 00:51:08,400
there was

1437
00:51:11,109 --> 00:51:10,000
you know we chased a white light through

1438
00:51:13,829 --> 00:51:11,119
a field

1439
00:51:15,589 --> 00:51:13,839
uh during the filming of that episode

1440
00:51:16,870 --> 00:51:15,599
and that was that was pretty strange we

1441
00:51:18,309 --> 00:51:16,880
also think that could have been like

1442
00:51:20,150 --> 00:51:18,319
deer poachers or something like that

1443
00:51:21,829 --> 00:51:20,160
because you are out in

1444
00:51:24,390 --> 00:51:21,839
in this in the sticks the only thing

1445
00:51:26,230 --> 00:51:24,400
about that is you know like

1446
00:51:27,750 --> 00:51:26,240
i don't know you gotta have some real

1447
00:51:29,990 --> 00:51:27,760
you gotta have like a death wish to run

1448
00:51:31,430 --> 00:51:30,000
around in those woods on someone else's

1449
00:51:34,230 --> 00:51:31,440
property

1450
00:51:35,829 --> 00:51:34,240
like you know in rural high on far on

1451
00:51:37,430 --> 00:51:35,839
farmland that's when people keep telling

1452
00:51:38,790 --> 00:51:37,440
us we're being hoaxed and i'm like okay

1453
00:51:40,069 --> 00:51:38,800
well

1454
00:51:41,109 --> 00:51:40,079
we're going to know soon because if

1455
00:51:43,670 --> 00:51:41,119
they're hoaxing they're going to get

1456
00:51:44,630 --> 00:51:43,680
shot pretty soon

1457
00:51:49,270 --> 00:51:44,640
yeah

1458
00:51:51,109 --> 00:51:49,280
i've seen some people do some crazy

1459
00:51:53,589 --> 00:51:51,119
stuff out in the woods but then again

1460
00:51:54,870 --> 00:51:53,599
that that wouldn't surprise me at all

1461
00:51:57,589 --> 00:51:54,880
um

1462
00:51:59,109 --> 00:51:57,599
what's the next installment of uh on the

1463
00:52:01,910 --> 00:51:59,119
road with ufos

1464
00:52:03,589 --> 00:52:01,920
i mean um uh yeah on the trail of ufos

1465
00:52:05,829 --> 00:52:03,599
is gonna be

1466
00:52:07,910 --> 00:52:05,839
it's uh night visitors it comes out like

1467
00:52:10,069 --> 00:52:07,920
april 5th i think it's part of the next

1468
00:52:11,750 --> 00:52:10,079
store kickstarter launches

1469
00:52:14,950 --> 00:52:11,760
february 3rd and that'll fund everything

1470
00:52:15,910 --> 00:52:14,960
we're putting out in 2022.

1471
00:52:17,990 --> 00:52:15,920
okay

1472
00:52:20,710 --> 00:52:18,000
and so that includes night visitors

1473
00:52:23,190 --> 00:52:20,720
night visitors was filmed back in

1474
00:52:25,190 --> 00:52:23,200
september out in colorado we interviewed

1475
00:52:26,630 --> 00:52:25,200
christopher o'brien and

1476
00:52:29,510 --> 00:52:26,640
and uh

1477
00:52:32,230 --> 00:52:29,520
uh yeah a lot a lot of really cool uh

1478
00:52:34,069 --> 00:52:32,240
investigators but also like some really

1479
00:52:36,710 --> 00:52:34,079
uh some people who've had very strange

1480
00:52:38,950 --> 00:52:36,720
activity uh including like uh we we went

1481
00:52:40,069 --> 00:52:38,960
to a cattle ranch where they've lost a

1482
00:52:43,030 --> 00:52:40,079
number of

1483
00:52:43,670 --> 00:52:43,040
uh cattle to to suspected mutilations

1484
00:52:45,510 --> 00:52:43,680
and

1485
00:52:47,510 --> 00:52:45,520
actually one valley

1486
00:52:48,950 --> 00:52:47,520
oh yeah yeah we were out and we were out

1487
00:52:50,549 --> 00:52:48,960
in the san juan valley for about four

1488
00:52:53,109 --> 00:52:50,559
days and then we were up in the rockies

1489
00:52:55,109 --> 00:52:53,119
for like three days um beautiful

1490
00:52:56,630 --> 00:52:55,119
absolutely gorgeous country out there

1491
00:52:58,790 --> 00:52:56,640
but yeah it's very

1492
00:53:00,710 --> 00:52:58,800
very steeped in like the darker side of

1493
00:53:03,670 --> 00:53:00,720
ufology you know for anyone that's

1494
00:53:05,589 --> 00:53:03,680
watched the previous uh on the trail vfo

1495
00:53:07,270 --> 00:53:05,599
stuff dark sky and

1496
00:53:08,549 --> 00:53:07,280
the first season

1497
00:53:10,390 --> 00:53:08,559
they're kind of like

1498
00:53:12,630 --> 00:53:10,400
you know an introduction they act as

1499
00:53:14,470 --> 00:53:12,640
like an introduction to ufology for

1500
00:53:18,470 --> 00:53:14,480
people who might not know a lot about

1501
00:53:21,349 --> 00:53:18,480
ufos um with a heavy focus on witness

1502
00:53:23,510 --> 00:53:21,359
testimony uh this one has the same focus

1503
00:53:26,549 --> 00:53:23,520
on witness testimony but it's much less

1504
00:53:29,270 --> 00:53:26,559
like hey let's have fun with ufos it's

1505
00:53:30,309 --> 00:53:29,280
more like hey this is terrifying

1506
00:53:32,950 --> 00:53:30,319
um

1507
00:53:34,549 --> 00:53:32,960
so i i'm i'm excited for for people to

1508
00:53:36,710 --> 00:53:34,559
see that one the the scenery is pretty

1509
00:53:38,549 --> 00:53:36,720
cool the the witness stories are super

1510
00:53:41,510 --> 00:53:38,559
creepy we've got some some really weird

1511
00:53:43,589 --> 00:53:41,520
stuff that you know hints at the

1512
00:53:45,349 --> 00:53:43,599
definitely the more like malevolent side

1513
00:53:46,790 --> 00:53:45,359
of ufology

1514
00:53:48,470 --> 00:53:46,800
um

1515
00:53:50,309 --> 00:53:48,480
you know cattle mutilations obviously

1516
00:53:51,990 --> 00:53:50,319
but but abduction the abduction

1517
00:53:54,870 --> 00:53:52,000
phenomenon and missing time and stuff

1518
00:53:56,309 --> 00:53:54,880
like that's a big part of this as well

1519
00:53:58,549 --> 00:53:56,319
um interesting

1520
00:54:00,150 --> 00:53:58,559
yeah i think i think it's a it's it's

1521
00:54:01,750 --> 00:54:00,160
gonna be a really

1522
00:54:03,829 --> 00:54:01,760
really cool installment i also think

1523
00:54:05,349 --> 00:54:03,839
it's gonna be the last film in the

1524
00:54:07,750 --> 00:54:05,359
series i think it's gonna be the last on

1525
00:54:09,829 --> 00:54:07,760
the trail of ufos film i think

1526
00:54:12,230 --> 00:54:09,839
on the trail of ufos is going to move

1527
00:54:14,230 --> 00:54:12,240
over to youtube and become an episodic

1528
00:54:15,670 --> 00:54:14,240
series again we did season one that's

1529
00:54:17,750 --> 00:54:15,680
how it began

1530
00:54:18,790 --> 00:54:17,760
um and i've always wanted to get back to

1531
00:54:22,470 --> 00:54:18,800
that

1532
00:54:23,910 --> 00:54:22,480
head after night visitors is back to

1533
00:54:26,230 --> 00:54:23,920
doing the episodic series and hopefully

1534
00:54:27,670 --> 00:54:26,240
on youtube youtube's gonna over the next

1535
00:54:29,589 --> 00:54:27,680
like two years that's gonna become a

1536
00:54:32,150 --> 00:54:29,599
huge part of what we do

1537
00:54:34,309 --> 00:54:32,160
in addition to the films

1538
00:54:35,030 --> 00:54:34,319
yeah i um

1539
00:54:48,870 --> 00:54:35,040
i

1540
00:54:50,470 --> 00:54:48,880
so much out there now

1541
00:54:53,190 --> 00:54:50,480
and there's so much good and there's so

1542
00:54:54,309 --> 00:54:53,200
much bad you kind of gotta wade through

1543
00:54:57,109 --> 00:54:54,319
it all

1544
00:54:59,829 --> 00:54:57,119
but uh i'm gonna start looking into more

1545
00:55:01,990 --> 00:54:59,839
of it myself um

1546
00:55:02,950 --> 00:55:02,000
you know doing cryptids is one thing but

1547
00:55:04,870 --> 00:55:02,960
you know

1548
00:55:06,549 --> 00:55:04,880
and myself i believe there's a big

1549
00:55:07,510 --> 00:55:06,559
connection between a lot of this stuff

1550
00:55:08,950 --> 00:55:07,520
so

1551
00:55:10,710 --> 00:55:08,960
of course you found that out when you

1552
00:55:12,069 --> 00:55:10,720
were working with stan and then out

1553
00:55:13,910 --> 00:55:12,079
there at uh

1554
00:55:15,589 --> 00:55:13,920
chestnut ridge and everything

1555
00:55:17,190 --> 00:55:15,599
uh what people think about the

1556
00:55:18,870 --> 00:55:17,200
connections

1557
00:55:20,630 --> 00:55:18,880
yeah we're gonna we're gonna get into

1558
00:55:23,510 --> 00:55:20,640
some of that actually too we're doing an

1559
00:55:25,829 --> 00:55:23,520
on the trail of bigfoot series entirely

1560
00:55:28,230 --> 00:55:25,839
based on the chestnut ridge oh really

1561
00:55:29,430 --> 00:55:28,240
for youtube as well yeah

1562
00:55:31,349 --> 00:55:29,440
interesting

1563
00:55:34,390 --> 00:55:31,359
yeah i'm excited to get back over there

1564
00:55:36,710 --> 00:55:34,400
because i love that chestnut ridge stuff

1565
00:55:38,390 --> 00:55:36,720
yeah it's some pretty interesting things

1566
00:55:40,870 --> 00:55:38,400
yeah i mean i've experienced some stuff

1567
00:55:42,870 --> 00:55:40,880
out there too so i know i mean i and i

1568
00:55:44,870 --> 00:55:42,880
do get a wild story from there

1569
00:55:46,150 --> 00:55:44,880
occasionally and i know plenty of people

1570
00:55:49,109 --> 00:55:46,160
live near there

1571
00:55:50,950 --> 00:55:49,119
yeah and uh yeah you do hear of course

1572
00:55:52,309 --> 00:55:50,960
i'm talking stan all the time and of

1573
00:55:53,990 --> 00:55:52,319
course he's getting something all the

1574
00:55:57,510 --> 00:55:54,000
time as well so

1575
00:55:58,589 --> 00:55:57,520
yeah um so um

1576
00:56:01,829 --> 00:55:58,599
so

1577
00:56:02,630 --> 00:56:01,839
2022 what's on the agenda i mean how's

1578
00:56:05,510 --> 00:56:02,640
this

1579
00:56:07,430 --> 00:56:05,520
i i know you're you're you're going to

1580
00:56:08,710 --> 00:56:07,440
try to fund everything for the whole

1581
00:56:09,430 --> 00:56:08,720
year

1582
00:56:10,870 --> 00:56:09,440
yeah

1583
00:56:13,670 --> 00:56:10,880
what uh

1584
00:56:15,990 --> 00:56:13,680
or what locations you're going to uh are

1585
00:56:17,349 --> 00:56:16,000
you going to do any presentations or

1586
00:56:19,670 --> 00:56:17,359
what's going on

1587
00:56:21,829 --> 00:56:19,680
uh we do less and less events each year

1588
00:56:24,470 --> 00:56:21,839
we'll definitely be at like cryptid con

1589
00:56:27,349 --> 00:56:24,480
next fall is going to be on our agenda

1590
00:56:28,950 --> 00:56:27,359
if if mothman festival happens we'll be

1591
00:56:30,549 --> 00:56:28,960
there but that's about it as far as

1592
00:56:32,390 --> 00:56:30,559
events i have planned right now wild and

1593
00:56:35,510 --> 00:56:32,400
weird west virginia

1594
00:56:37,589 --> 00:56:35,520
uh we'll probably do that but um we've

1595
00:56:40,309 --> 00:56:37,599
got so yeah we're making on the trail of

1596
00:56:41,670 --> 00:56:40,319
ufos night visitors that'll be out um

1597
00:56:42,870 --> 00:56:41,680
we're doing

1598
00:56:45,430 --> 00:56:42,880
on the trail of bigfoot the last

1599
00:56:46,470 --> 00:56:45,440
frontier which is an alaskan bigfoot

1600
00:56:48,950 --> 00:56:46,480
movie

1601
00:56:51,510 --> 00:56:48,960
um and the follow-up to on the trail of

1602
00:56:53,990 --> 00:56:51,520
bigfoot the discovery we're doing a

1603
00:56:55,430 --> 00:56:54,000
jersey devil movie that'll be our big

1604
00:56:57,910 --> 00:56:55,440
like legend

1605
00:56:59,430 --> 00:56:57,920
movie of the year um we're really we're

1606
00:57:01,030 --> 00:56:59,440
actually going tomorrow to do or not

1607
00:57:02,710 --> 00:57:01,040
tomorrow but sunday to do location

1608
00:57:04,390 --> 00:57:02,720
scouting for that so that's going to be

1609
00:57:06,230 --> 00:57:04,400
our big kind of like big budget

1610
00:57:07,670 --> 00:57:06,240
cinematic movie of the year

1611
00:57:09,109 --> 00:57:07,680
uh and then we're making this movie

1612
00:57:10,630 --> 00:57:09,119
american werewolves which we're super

1613
00:57:11,589 --> 00:57:10,640
excited about it's like

1614
00:57:13,349 --> 00:57:11,599
um

1615
00:57:16,950 --> 00:57:13,359
a twin peaks

1616
00:57:18,789 --> 00:57:16,960
inspired look at the dog man phenomenon

1617
00:57:20,390 --> 00:57:18,799
uh if that makes any sense i've been

1618
00:57:22,390 --> 00:57:20,400
watching a lot of twin peaks this year

1619
00:57:24,470 --> 00:57:22,400
and and the movies definitely got some

1620
00:57:27,109 --> 00:57:24,480
of that in it but um and then youtube

1621
00:57:28,789 --> 00:57:27,119
we've got beyond the trail it's going

1622
00:57:30,390 --> 00:57:28,799
twice monthly there's going to be two

1623
00:57:32,549 --> 00:57:30,400
episodes to be on the trail each month

1624
00:57:34,390 --> 00:57:32,559
we're going to do more of the bigfoot

1625
00:57:37,030 --> 00:57:34,400
project and the bigfoot project won't

1626
00:57:39,109 --> 00:57:37,040
always be at the location in minerva

1627
00:57:41,750 --> 00:57:39,119
we've already talked about going back to

1628
00:57:43,510 --> 00:57:41,760
area x and the watchtowers and doing

1629
00:57:45,349 --> 00:57:43,520
some stuff there with it we're we're

1630
00:57:47,109 --> 00:57:45,359
going to do some

1631
00:57:50,069 --> 00:57:47,119
some overnights at

1632
00:57:51,829 --> 00:57:50,079
um witness houses and locations where

1633
00:57:55,430 --> 00:57:51,839
there's witness activity things like

1634
00:57:57,750 --> 00:57:55,440
bigfoot activity on witness property

1635
00:57:59,990 --> 00:57:57,760
and then on the trail of bigfoot

1636
00:58:01,910 --> 00:58:00,000
the ridge and then we do a heather does

1637
00:58:03,670 --> 00:58:01,920
a podcast called the lore you know which

1638
00:58:05,030 --> 00:58:03,680
is also a video cast kind of like what

1639
00:58:07,190 --> 00:58:05,040
you do here

1640
00:58:08,789 --> 00:58:07,200
and then mark and i do monsteropolis

1641
00:58:10,950 --> 00:58:08,799
with heather as well so

1642
00:58:12,630 --> 00:58:10,960
there's a lot we're and we have more

1643
00:58:13,990 --> 00:58:12,640
we're actually filming the first episode

1644
00:58:15,910 --> 00:58:14,000
of something else at the beginning of

1645
00:58:17,349 --> 00:58:15,920
next month so

1646
00:58:18,630 --> 00:58:17,359
that we haven't even announced yet so

1647
00:58:21,190 --> 00:58:18,640
there's always

1648
00:58:23,990 --> 00:58:21,200
stuff going on we when we're planned out

1649
00:58:25,430 --> 00:58:24,000
through 2023 so we always try to have

1650
00:58:27,990 --> 00:58:25,440
everything planned basically two years

1651
00:58:30,230 --> 00:58:28,000
in advance so well unfortunately cove

1652
00:58:31,349 --> 00:58:30,240
would hit you two years and uh let's

1653
00:58:32,309 --> 00:58:31,359
hope this

1654
00:58:33,990 --> 00:58:32,319
you know

1655
00:58:35,750 --> 00:58:34,000
everything pans out to where you can do

1656
00:58:38,950 --> 00:58:35,760
it what you want to do

1657
00:58:41,750 --> 00:58:38,960
yes um so uh seth tell everybody how

1658
00:58:43,510 --> 00:58:41,760
they can get all your films and um

1659
00:58:45,109 --> 00:58:43,520
and get ahold of you

1660
00:58:47,750 --> 00:58:45,119
yeah um

1661
00:58:49,349 --> 00:58:47,760
so we're on most social media platforms

1662
00:58:51,910 --> 00:58:49,359
uh instagram and facebook and all that

1663
00:58:53,510 --> 00:58:51,920
kind of stuff uh the kickstarter launch

1664
00:58:55,829 --> 00:58:53,520
is february 3rd

1665
00:58:57,190 --> 00:58:55,839
if you're interested in getting copies

1666
00:59:02,069 --> 00:58:57,200
of the movies and all that kind of stuff

1667
00:59:03,910 --> 00:59:02,079
you can back the kickstarter uh we have

1668
00:59:05,589 --> 00:59:03,920
most of our movies anymore are available

1669
00:59:08,230 --> 00:59:05,599
on all the major

1670
00:59:09,430 --> 00:59:08,240
vod platforms so like itunes and amazon

1671
00:59:11,510 --> 00:59:09,440
and google play and all that kind of

1672
00:59:13,990 --> 00:59:11,520
stuff some of them are on 2b tv right

1673
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now amazon prime has decided they're

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banning all non-fiction

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independent content from going to free

1676
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prime which is very strange they still

1677
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started doing that about a year ago

1678
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um so none of our movies are available

1679
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on amazon prime right now other than

1680
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some of the older releases none of the

1681
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new ones will be free on prime all right

1682
00:59:36,630 --> 00:59:34,480
yeah i mean they're hitting a lot of

1683
00:59:38,150 --> 00:59:36,640
it's not just like a paranormal thing

1684
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it's literally like anyone that's making

1685
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documentaries

1686
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has gotten slammed with us so i'm not

1687
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real clear on why they did it but they

1688
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did it and so

1689
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that's one of the reasons we're really

1690
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focusing heavily on youtube but the uh

1691
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but uh yeah you can watch all of our

1692
00:59:55,510 --> 00:59:52,960
stuff on youtube just look up small town

1693
00:59:56,789 --> 00:59:55,520
monsters and subscribe to the page over

1694
00:59:58,390 --> 00:59:56,799
there as well

1695
01:00:01,510 --> 00:59:58,400
sounds good

1696
01:00:03,589 --> 01:00:01,520
well seth uh thanks for coming on uh

1697
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keep me updated uh

1698
01:00:07,510 --> 01:00:05,520
you know you need anything you know all

1699
01:00:09,670 --> 01:00:07,520
you gotta do is

1700
01:00:12,230 --> 01:00:09,680
contact me and ask me

1701
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thanks a lot okay you take care of that

1702
01:00:17,589 --> 01:00:13,440
you too

1703
01:00:21,349 --> 01:00:19,430
so if uh you have an unexplained

1704
01:00:22,710 --> 01:00:21,359
encounter of sighting uh feel free to

1705
01:00:24,470 --> 01:00:22,720
contact me through the phantoms of

1706
01:00:26,789 --> 01:00:24,480
monsters blog site

1707
01:00:28,789 --> 01:00:26,799
i want to again thank seth breedlove for

1708
01:00:30,630 --> 01:00:28,799
joining me this evening and thanks to

1709
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each and all of you

1710
01:00:35,270 --> 01:00:32,880
for watching and chatting and if you

1711
01:00:36,549 --> 01:00:35,280
made a super chat donation it's very

1712
01:00:38,789 --> 01:00:36,559
appreciated

1713
01:00:41,109 --> 01:00:38,799
um your support is what makes it is all

1714
01:00:44,710 --> 01:00:41,119
possible so please like subscribe and

1715
01:00:46,390 --> 01:00:44,720
share now next week i have eric mintel

1716
01:00:48,069 --> 01:00:46,400
and a few other folks from the bucks

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county pennsylvania

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paranormal investigations team

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they'll be discussing a few of their

1721
01:00:59,349 --> 01:00:56,960
investigations including a trip they had

1722
01:01:02,710 --> 01:00:59,359
to southern wisconsin in order to look

1723
01:01:05,589 --> 01:01:02,720
into the beast of bray road phenomena so

1724
01:01:07,270 --> 01:01:05,599
that should be very interesting and uh i

1725
01:01:10,549 --> 01:01:07,280
just want to mention

1726
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i have a new book coming out in february

1727
01:01:14,950 --> 01:01:12,880
don't know the exact date yet it's going

1728
01:01:17,589 --> 01:01:14,960
to be titled the meme of humanoids

1729
01:01:18,870 --> 01:01:17,599
modern myths and royal mods or real

1730
01:01:20,789 --> 01:01:18,880
monsters

1731
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uh it'll be released sometime during the

1732
01:01:25,990 --> 01:01:23,200
month but we just don't have a date set

1733
01:01:27,589 --> 01:01:26,000
yet so again until next week stay

1734
01:01:37,380 --> 01:01:27,599
healthy have a safe and enjoyable

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01:01:37,390 --> 01:01:49,920
[Music]

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[Applause]

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[Music]

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do